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One of the big ones I see is letting the elected be in charge of how elections are run. This serves no point or purpose other than a compromise to the currently already sitting states.

Also our senate vs representatives model. There is nothing wrong with this, even though it doesn't exist anymore (17th amendment). However it's obvious this was a compromise point because the constitution had to adhere to already sitting states.

One of the big ones I see is letting the elected be in charge of how elections are run. This serves no point or purpose other than a compromise to the currently already sitting states. Also our senate vs representatives model. There is nothing wrong with this, even though it doesn't exist anymore (17th amendment). However it's obvious this was a compromise point because the constitution had to adhere to already sitting states.

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This reminded me of a bigger problem. State houses used to elect the senators. You can’t buy a majority of the state legislatures, but you can rig general public elections for senate with voting machines. Why the fuck was this changed?

It makes zero sense. Even if elections were safe and legit, it consolidates power to the majority. That’s not how a constitutional republic works.

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Was changed after the civil war almost certainly as part of removing states ability to have any existence quite frankly. And then to not be able to get uppity again.

They know what bones to break in the constitution etc so that the US as it was supposed to stand can't anymore. But ultimately it's too complicated for quite frankly barely literally anyone to understand so basically 99% of everyone is wut_face.jpg on how isn't the US isn't actually the US?

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When how senators are voting is known you absolutely can buy entire legislative bodies.

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Look at the major concessions given to slave power just to get that thing passed.

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Like what? Southern states wanted full counting of negros in the census. Northern states wanted to exclude negros from the census. The compromise was 3/5 per negro. This is the only slave related issue I know about from the Constitutional convention.

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Patrick Henry refused to participate in the convention and claimed I Smell a Rat! More basic, what right or authority does a small group of men have to get together and create a bunch of rules we all have to obey? I never consented, did any of you? It was just here when I was born.

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Read the state ratification statements. Each state legislature summarized their reasons. Here's one from New York...

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/ratny.asp

Rhode Island...

https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/rhode-islands-ratification/

Virginia...

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/ratva.asp

Internet search the rest. BTW, some of these have stronger pro-gun statements than the 2nd amendment. It's pretty clear what the 2a means when you read these.