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If I am buying silver coins for the ounce of silver, why would I buy coins from the US mint at $70/oz versus an online seller like golden state mint for $26/oz? Is there some pedigree these might have when SHTF?

If I am buying silver coins for the ounce of silver, why would I buy coins from the US mint at $70/oz versus an online seller like golden state mint for $26/oz? Is there some pedigree these might have when SHTF?

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The US Mint is catering to coin collectors, these days. From Proofs to commemoratives, there's a large premium. You'll find that premium on old American issue coins, as well. And the older and better shape, the higher the premium. If your looking for just plain one troy ounce silver, buy rounds or bars. For something to be a coin, it has to be backed by the issuing government for X amount of said government's dollars. All silver, in all forms (coins, bars, rounds, spoons, etc.) will have a premium. Some much higher than others, usually due to how many pieces have been made, others just due to demand. The American Silver Eagle is issued by the United States government and is backed for one US Dollar. It's the world standard for coins and carries a large premium. Canadian Maples are a close second, with a smaller premium, England's Brittanias... The list goes on... FYI: Lots of these coins, rounds and bars can be found in many different metals. All of them will have a premium. BEWARE: anyone selling anything under the spot prices is probably a scammer. Check the spot before you do anything! Never sell to a pawn shop or coin store - always sell privately. Feel free to ask, I collect coins

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Never sell to a pawn shop or coin store - always sell privately.

Why? Pawn shop I get, but what is wrong with selling to a coin store?

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Nothing, really. But you're going to be able to get a better deal if you sell privately a lot of the time.

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Coin stores won't always give you numismatic value. And those premiums can be significantly more than the weight value of a piece. (If you're a regular, you may get a much better deal.) Walk into a coin store, ask: what's spot and what's bid? How much are you selling for/ how much are willing to pay me?

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Thanks for this info, not collecting coins, but building a selection of barter goods, silver and gold coin/rounds/bars being a portion. For me it's about trying to get as close as possible to spot without too much risk

How are you verifying silver authenticity on delivery? I have seen some saying a magnet slide is the easiest option...

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I purchase from reputable dealers. One is the import agent for a specific coin from a specific country. Can't get one unless you are a citizen there. But I pay for that with premiums. It's kinda like an investment for me, I'll get the premiums back when I go to sell. Otherwise, ping test or taking them to a coin store that will confirm the metals. Things like security features (watch a video about the one on England's Britannia, they're pretty interesting,) luster/patina, weight and size are all extremely difficult to reproduce with the incorrect metals. There are home electronic ways to tell what metal you have, but they can get expensive. Idk how cheap they can be had, but the x-ray ones at a pawn shop/ coin/ jewelry store should be the expensive ones, like 10+ k. Believe it or not- some fakes can be worth money, but you really have to know your stuff. Lots of history.

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Try kitco. Reliable and good pricing.

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Thanks, this is a new site for me and has some neat pieces.

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https://www.goldenstatemint.com/1-oz-Aztec-Calendar-Silver-Round-999-Fine.html

They claim .999% pure for $26.75 check or wire. Seems like a reasonable price compared to the other silver options.

Silver is silver when the SHTF. .999% is better than sterling .925%

you might be able to get silver blanks or bars a little cheaper per oz, us mint silver looks to be over $33/oz on this site.

Bags of old silver used to be cheaper, and could be easier to use in exchange after the SHTF because dimes and quarters will be smaller than 1 oz rounds/coins. My 2 cents.

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"Silver is silver" has been my thoughts as well, until recently GSM has been my go-to for monthly purchases, but comments were made that it's authenticity could be doubted without the USD stamp.

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Test kits are cheap, many choices on Amazon.

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Scale, calipers, and ping.

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Local coin dealers are who I use, reputable.

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also look at shipping costs. silver's only problem is that it's heavy 26$ an ounce with 20$ shipping if guarenteed money lost

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Yeah, luckily I have been placing orders at volumes to qualify for free shipping :)

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If I am buying silver coins for the ounce of silver, why would I buy coins from the US mint at $70/oz versus an online seller like golden state mint for $26/oz?

70 / ounce is stupid high for coins right now. 26 for silver rounds right now is a pretty fair price if purchasing from a dealer (in the current climate). that said, you should be able to pay closer to spot in a private deal.

Is there some pedigree these might have when SHTF?

well, state issued silver coins such as the silver eagle, silver maple, philharmonic and Krugerrand are more recognizable (with well known dimensions and weights). so, some people new to handling silver can often feel more comfortable handling these as opposed to generic silver rounds, so silver coins generally do afford a small small premium over generic rounds (usually only a couple dollars more though). once you start stacking, it will become pretty clear when something is fishy / fake, so it's really up to you, but you can a stack more silver if you go for the generics, especially the ugly stuff like the Christmas rounds. 🤣

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Agreed. Why pay a premium for the picture on a one ounce bar? If you are a SHTF investor, keep in mind that larger bars will be hard to use unless bartering for something big. Three precious metals: gold, silver and lead. I've bought from dealers at gunshows.

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Lead is a really good option, I hadn't thought about that but everyone needs bullets...

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And your safe ideally would have the capacity for storage; a seperate safe is good as well.

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I ain't got 8,000+ rounds for nothin' :)

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