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I’m watching this guy go down. It fucking sucks. First wife was abusive and violent enough that they awarded custody of the two kids (toddlers) to an actual man. So I assume she was as bad as he says. Ugh. Fuck. Long story short, he’s a very rare excellent young man who can’t get childcare because he’s broke, and can’t work without childcare. He’s gonna lose his kids, I think. He’s a very fine tradesman.

It just pisses me off that someone like him gets completely fucked by the women in his life. It’s bad. It’s a long story that involves some typical females destroying men shit and it bothers me. He may be twice the man I am, but they fucking tore him down.

Is it possible that could give up his kids for a year and get them back? Is that a thing?

Update! Hooked him up with a job and he’s borrowing one of my vehicles until his truck is fixed. Found him childcare for less than the daycare he couldn’t afford. He’s looking into welfare.

In his words, “It was a good day”.
I’ve never seen someone swing that hard in one day. It’s tenuous, but that’s a long way from fooked.

I’m watching this guy go down. It fucking sucks. First wife was abusive and violent enough that they awarded custody of the two kids (toddlers) to an actual man. So I assume she was as bad as he says. Ugh. Fuck. Long story short, he’s a very rare excellent young man who can’t get childcare because he’s broke, and can’t work without childcare. He’s gonna lose his kids, I think. He’s a very fine tradesman. It just pisses me off that someone like him gets completely fucked by the women in his life. It’s bad. It’s a long story that involves some typical females destroying men shit and it bothers me. He may be twice the man I am, but they fucking tore him down. Is it possible that could give up his kids for a year and get them back? Is that a thing? Update! Hooked him up with a job and he’s borrowing one of my vehicles until his truck is fixed. Found him childcare for less than the daycare he couldn’t afford. He’s looking into welfare. In his words, “It was a good day”. I’ve never seen someone swing that hard in one day. It’s tenuous, but that’s a long way from fooked.

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[–] 15 pts

He needs to get on welfare/EBT and try to find a full time job at home or a part time job where he can have the kids with him.

I worked part time at a library for years. I was allowed to homeschool my kids on public computers.

[–] 5 pts

This. 100%. Those safety nets exist for people like the guy you’re describing so much more so than the niggers and spics that abuse it. There is no shame in accepting the help of your countrymen who want you to succeed.

[–] 5 pts

Honestly you pay for it you should use it. It's like saying you don't want to claim insurance because you don't want to hurt the insurance company. It's like people actually believe only blacks should be allowed to use those services. If it weren't for all the Marxist bullshit to begin with he probably wouldn't have the problems that led him to poverty

[–] 11 pts

Never give up your children, where there is will, there is a way with no exceptions. Are they infants? He should qualify for public assistance if he's really broke.

[–] 2 pts

I’m sure he’ll do what he can. It’s hard to watch a nice person systematically get crushed unnecessarily.

[–] 0 pt

I’m sure he’ll do what he can.

I doubt it. Negresses all talk to each other about how to milk the system. Who is teaching this guy how to get help? He probably doesn't even think about seeing what is available. Talk to the guy. Don't be shy about reaching out to a fellow White man, we need to help each other as much as possible.

[–] 0 pt

I have been on him about getting on the dole and will continue. Goofball said, “after childcare I have $60/day so I’ll be ok.” I mean, fine, but so many fucking animals milk it and don’t need it.

[–] 0 pt

This is the problem.

But I think he sees how well and truly fucked he is and will seek out every angle

[–] 5 pts

Single mother's get full rides, literally everything paid for. I don't see why he should be any different. He can work from home while having everything paid. He hit the jackpot.

[–] [deleted] 6 pts

Not White single mothers. Neegroe and other minorities do, but White single mothers- for whatever reason they're single mothers, do not get a "full ride".

OP needs to keep his kids out and away from the system or they'' end up products of a very sick and deranged social welfare system that is completely broken and rife with abusers and overworked welfare workers that don't give a rat's fart about a child's welfare. Work from home as much as possible, make as much cash as possible; keep income low enough you can claim child tax credit and boost your income tax return- makes a huge difference for single parent single income. Move near family so grandparents, aunts and uncles can help look after the kids when dad must work away from home. Find a good catholic church and become a member; many catholic communities do great things supporting members that need help in varying ways. Check out the insurance packages that focus on child health- even medicaid is better than no insurance.

[+] [deleted] 1 pt
[–] 3 pts

First, childcare expenses are 100% tax deductible if it's needed so parents can work during the day. That ought to help out a little bit, even though no one wants their kids in daycare all the time, that might be the best he can do until they are older.

Second, he should be eligible for welfare, EBT, etc, unless he's making 6 figures, which doesn't sound like it. Take advantage of that, the EBT usually has so much for food, that he probably won't have to spend his own money on groceries.

Third, if he's got any family anywhere that can help out, even just for a few months until he can secure work and childcare, he should do that.

It's a tough situation, but if he's capable of holding a fulltime job, there should be a way to make it work. It won't be glamorous, but kids that age don't really understand if their parents are poor. They just want their parents around.

[–] 3 pts

Excellent points

[–] 1 pt

Yeah, ar first glance, it seems impossible to raise kids while while also working, but there is a lot of government handouts. Making under $50K a year, a single parent is likely not owing any taxes, but getting a check back. There's also a ton of charities out there for helping families just like that, to get school supplies, clothes, Christmas gifts, etc. If he's a smart guy who can manage his time and money well, he should be okay.

[–] 2 pts

Yes he can. I coached HS football for many years. Some of the kids were from group homes. One kid, good kid and great athlete, his mom had many times given him up and he would live in that group home for 6 months or close to a year, then she would take him back for a while, and give him back. Just terrible.

[–] 1 pt

he’s a very rare excellent young man

Bullshit. Excellent young men dont create 18 year responsibilities with violent abusers. There is no single greater responsibility than helpless children. He chose not to vet his wife, and they will pay the price.

[–] 4 pts

This. Let this story be a lesson to all the men of poal. Don't stick your dick in crazy and most problems cease to exist.

[–] 1 pt

That and have empathy for your future children. Would you want her as your mother? No? Then dont summon the stork.

[–] 1 pt

Fair point. Good work ethic, kind, hopefully honest. But we’ll see.

[–] 0 pt

There's truth to that, however, reckless young men can make mistakes, and then turn into good, hard working men.

While you should definitely vet the mother of your children, I'm not going to condemn as a lost cause someone who rushed into something, or hell even just outright didn't care when picking up bimbos, but then when the chips are down to take care of their kids tries to get their stuff together.

How much better would the world be if more folks were like, "Yep, I fucked up, and this is gonna be tough, but now what do I need to do to unfuck the mess I made the best I can?" I'd venture a lot.

[–] 1 pt

Cluster B arseholes often hide behind a damn good mask and can do so for a long time. They eventually out themselves, but it can take a long time with the particularly malignant ones.

[–] 0 pt

I will give some weight to the prodigal son excuse when it only impacts him. Once he brings innocent children into the world, then he's a child abuser and it carries no weight.

For much the same reason that pounding a fifth of vodka and waking up in your yard is self-destructive but readily forgivable. Pounding vodka and then running over some kids is not. And that comparison is dead on - the stats for single parenting outcomes are a shitshow.

[–] 0 pt

If we were talking about an evaluation of what does this guy deserves you could certainly make the case he deserves no breaks coming his way.

But here we are talking about innocent kids who got no vote in their parentage. Whether he deserves it or not aside, the best option is an avenue for him to be able to get things together and be able to have a decent life to take care of the kids. Kids are certainly best off in responsible nuclear families. But the kids are a lot better off in a dingle parent home with a parent who is trying their best with the situation they made with a reasonable avenue to a decent life than with a parent who doesn't care at all or a society that says, "Fuck 'em, sins of the father."

[–] 1 pt

There’s only help out there for the wrong situations and never for the promising ones it seems.

[–] 0 pt

Dont ever give your kids up...get family to help. You help him..dont let him go down.

[–] 1 pt

So far, so good. Yesterday was basically hustle and miracles.

[–] 0 pt

off chance is he a veteran?

[–] 0 pt (edited )

When I got divorced and old man friend of mine told me it's, "The fucking you get for the fuckin you got.". Luckily only one was daycare age and I make pretty good money and have family that likes to help.

[–] 0 pt

That’s fucked up. I wish I hadn’t read it. Makes me sad, and I have no answers. This world is unfair