As experts in how the leftist MSM using tricks to piss on and manipulate people, as anyone else here noticed the leftists in their lives use the same tricks in their daily lives?

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IE: Stonewalling reality. Gaslighting. "That's what normal people do". Etc.

What I've noticed is without explicitly being taught these tricks, they fully employ them in their daily lives for little and mundane things.

These are tricks I've never seen them use before the MSM started using them either.

What's "interesting" is I expect only we are some of the only ones that can definitely explain these tricks. But they've learned them and fully employ them, without having a clue that they are doing it I am sure.

IE: Stonewalling reality. Gaslighting. "That's what normal people do". Etc. What I've noticed is without explicitly being taught these tricks, they fully employ them in their daily lives for little and mundane things. These are tricks I've never seen them use before the MSM started using them either. What's "interesting" is I expect only we are some of the only ones that can definitely explain these tricks. But they've learned them and fully employ them, without having a clue that they are doing it I am sure.

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The most annoying things leftists do in real life is drop little political comments and then when challenged they say they don't want to talk about politics. They want to be free to comment without being challenged. They get really annoyed when you keep going and will absolutely refuse to engage. It's because they know their position is indefensible.

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I tend to think of left and right as up and down now. Generally, leftists want to remove boundaries and lower standards. This would actually be appropriate if the government were demanding people walk up vertical walls unassisted. Yes, we need to tone it down. The left of many decades ago was a negative, destructive force to a strong, stable society. Now you are really a corrupt, idiot if you think we need less boundaries and standards than what we have now.

This a focus on social policy. The financial things are riddled with corruption. Right wingers want people to work for everything and pull up their bootstraps and all that. There's no acknowledgement of how bad the system is fucking people. Meanwhile, the left wants everything for free and of course this includes for anybody who just walks in here. There is a grain of goodness and reason in this, but with the left, the real implementation of things are always a disaster. It would be good if those who are most capable of being successful and amassing wealth would seek to help the general people of their society instead of hording as much as they can for themselves. This unrestrained hording is allowed and justified by the right. Generally, right wingers are doing okay and lefties are struggling. So the lefties want the free stuff and the right wingers insist on work and all that.

One more point about the left. Their opinions are not organic and are actually manufactured by the system. Right wing values of race, God, country tend to be organic values coming from inside the person and their family and all that. There was no government or system that put them there. The system tends to exploit these things, though, to amass a controlled opposition based upon them.

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It appears to me to operate in a similar fashion as cults or other authoritarian religions.

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Yes, I have, especially family. If someone spends hours each day being in communion with the zealots on TV (or other media) they wil of course develop the same mode of acting as the zealots.

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If you learn what all of the logical fallacies are, they are basically the go-tos for every single leftist the world over. They are laughably predictable.

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They argue as if the fallacies handbook is their argument handbook

They're so predictable you can use them to validate whatever you are talking about because they identify themselves so clearly.

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Exactly.

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Yes. They learn from their media. They become as underhanded dishonest and manipulative as the media they consume.

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These micro transactions are present in both left and right leaning *individuals. It's been discreetly exemplified in every media platform constantly for decades now. Education, radio, TV, movies, internet content. People will often seek out methods of "life skills" from these sources when they are not taught a better ways from those who love them. And when people have no personal ethics, they tend to default to what ever method will win the argument of the moment. Instead of following a credo or personal ethic. So something specifically might be said to win an argument today that will completely contradict their specific argument winning approach tomorrow. This moral or ethical relativism is one of the greatest tools in the leftist arsenal of indoctrination theory. They're playing whack-a- mole , while we're playing chess. The former is easier and satisfies another platitude of the leftist ideology of "lie lie lie deny. Never admit wrong doing". The only leftists that are playing chess are the string pullers. And even then, it's not really chess. It's more akin to hiding in the dark with a loaded gun. (On a macro scale). Most of these *micro- transactors are completely unaware of their duplicitous nature.

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I find myself regularly asking "jfc, are you the media?" And we're not talking about political topics. We're talking about everyday life things. These people are using extremely vile tactics I've only ever seen the media use. Tactics that absolutely can not be explained, justified or defended when confronted by them, but they do it anyways. Tactics you NEVER even HEARD OF let alone saw before the media started using them hardcore 2016 on.

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Exactly! Learned traits of a despicable and louche moral character, being taught by EVERYTHING around us. Convince enough of the population that these are normal behaviors and you have a perfect House of Cards waiting for the right puff of air.

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