If she has had sex before, then why shouldn't you have sex with her now?
She wants to wait until marriage, so whilst she is not a virgin, the last time she had sex was close to 20 years ago now
If she isn't a virgin then asking her father doesn't make sense. That ship has sailed.
Hence my confusion honestly, she's well up there in age (in her 30s), as am i (upper 30s) so asking her dad seems ... retarded? But on the other hand, if that's what she wants, then i guess it doesn't matter much.
Part of my theory is that she wants to get married to get rid of her family induced guilt complex over being intimate, thinking being married will make them go away. But she'll find out, that getting married doesn't make those feelings suddenly go away
Ok, I read threw a few of your past threads. Here is the deal:
A woman can't live her own life. She always has to play a part in someone else's. She needs leadership, and she will always follow the stronger leader.
Your girlfriend is led by her family right now. She wants to be led by you. The problem is that her family is strong and you are weak.
You have shown your weakness to her repeatedly: You haven't forced her into sex. You try to make her happy instead of expecting that your mere presence is enough to make her ecstatic.
She doesn't want you to ask her father, she wants you to claim her. Her retarded way of communicating that do you is suggesting that you ask her father. Her hope is that he says "no" and then you say "well fuck you, I'm taking her anyway". Women are stupid when it comes to romance.
This is all basic stuff btw, you would know it if you put any effort into reading game/pickup. This is why people keep asking you how old you are. Your level of understanding women is zero.
So here is what you need to do if you want to save this relationship:
Invite her over. Take her to your bedroom. Ejaculate into her vagina (not into a condom). Don't try to "earn" it. She is yours if you want her, claim what you want. She wants to be your slave, not your partner.
Im in the 30-40 range in terms of age, and ive always followed the same principles since i was a teenager. I'm just gonna wait it out and hold off on any marriage talk for now, until the family gets to know me better. I think at the end of the day, family is more important than whatever happiness or completion i can bring to the table. As for the sex she has hinted (not that subtlely either) that she wants me to have sex with her, however I've decided to hold her to her own words and wait until were married. My mom always taught me from a young age that there are certain boundaries you dont cross, and we were always instilled to respect those boundaries regardless of how much we were against them. Not that she was a perfect saint by the slightest, but i never got the impression from my mom that any need or want i ever required was to be acknowledged or reciprocated, and my dad made sure to remind me daily that anything i needed or wanted was to be casually ignored in favor of mom
Im in the 30-40 range in terms of age, and ive always followed the same principles since i was a teenager.
How have those principles worked for you? How many White children do you have? Zero, right?
I used to have similar principles, but then about 15 years ago I realized that they were holding me back. Now I have five White children. You have zero. It is because you choose to remain ignorant of the true nature of women.
I'm just gonna wait it out and hold off on any marriage talk for now, until the family gets to know me better. I think at the end of the day, family is more important than whatever happiness or completion i can bring to the table.
I would completely agree with you in a normal situation. However, she is old and if you want to impregnate her the clock is ticking. You and she both come from dysfunctional families, so her family is not actually more important than what you bring to the table.
As for the sex she has hinted (not that subtlely either) that she wants me to have sex with her
She is pushing you into sex even though you haven't known her a year. Do you really think that she has gone almost two decades without it? You are being naive.
however I've decided to hold her to her own words
She isn't you son. Never listen to a woman's words; listen to the emotions that she is attempting to communicate. You can't a hold a woman to her words. If you have even the most basic information about game/pickup you would know this. You are deeply and willfully ignorant. You have no excuse.
My mom always taught me from a young age that there are certain boundaries you dont cross
Your mom abused you. She taught you nothing of value. You are in your late 30s, it is time to grow up and move on.
and my dad made sure to remind me daily that anything i needed or wanted was to be casually ignored in favor of mom
Your dad enabled your mom's abuse. Nothing he did is of value.
You need to take charge of your life. You need to grow up. You are in your late 30s and you have a child's understanding of relationships. Shame on you for milking your abuse. You have no excuse now; it is time to grow up. Read game/pickup.
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