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I was discussing was trying to discuss N.S. Germany with a coworker and the subject of the labor based currency came up (for example, 1 dollar equals 1 hour of work or goods produced). My coworker had apparently already heard about it, and went on about how it somehow ended with N.S. Germany having hyperinflation at the end and that it would never work. He was not exactly clear why, and I could not find any information about N.S. Germany having hyperinflation, only the (((Weimar Republic))).

Still, I have never heard about hyperinflation in the Reich before. Is there any truth to this guy's claim or is he just running his mouth?

I was discussing was trying to discuss N.S. Germany with a coworker and the subject of the labor based currency came up (for example, 1 dollar equals 1 hour of work or goods produced). My coworker had apparently already heard about it, and went on about how it somehow ended with N.S. Germany having hyperinflation at the end and that it would never work. He was not exactly clear why, and I could not find any information about N.S. Germany having hyperinflation, only the (((Weimar Republic))). Still, I have never heard about hyperinflation in the Reich before. Is there any truth to this guy's claim or is he just running his mouth?

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Essentially no.

World War II, 1939-1945 See also: World War II

While it could finance the whole war with inflation, the German government didn't want to repeat the mistakes of World War I - at least a part of the cost should be paid with higher taxes and similar measures. One major problem has been the supplying of small change, this was taken care of by the Rentenbank, whose notes have been well known to the public. Another issue was with the monetary needs in occupied territories. Areas, that were made part of the Reich - Poland, Alsace-Lorraine and Austria, had to use the Reichsmark as money. In other areas - Norway, Ukraine, the Baltic, Netherlands etc. - were issued Reichskreditkassenscheine (Reich's credit treasury notes) to pay the troops.[1]

The "RKK-scheine" were designed to place the entire burden of the occupation on the country in which they were issued and to prevent any indirect drain on German stocks or diversion of German production arising from an unrestricted filtering-back of notes into the Reich. In addition, it was anticipated that the influx of the notes into circulation would alleviate the temporary shortage of local currency resulting from panic hoarding and the exodus of refugees from the area. This proved to be the case, particularly in Poland and Belgium, where the central banks followed the established governments into exile and took the note supply with them.[2]

All important goods were rationed, this forced economizing has been carefully planned and prepared. Another advantage of this well-run system was, that a growing part of the income of the population ended up in banks and savings banks, which allowed the government to deploy massive amounts of medium- and long-term bonds. But in this war, the issues of more debt were not accompanied by any propaganda, it was "noiseless war financing".

The income tax was raised by 50%, to a maximum rate rate of 65% of income, taxes on alcohol and tobacco were also highly increased. German states, districts and other public institutions also had to contribute to the war effort.

Several other taxes have been increased and introduced as the war went on. Various tax discounts and freeing from taxes were offered to the population, mostly set to expire after the war and leading them to deposit more into the banks. The state debt grew even more as evidence of the huge costs of war.

CHART

Money lost its function as a carrier of purchasing power. Important was only to get and spend the rations on bread, fat, shoes and other crucial goods, which became harder and harder.[1]

https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Inflation_in_Nazi_Germany

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Thank you for the in depth reply. This is a very interesting read. I hate to sound like an idiot, but could you clarify what the paragraph below "CHART" means? Is it saying that money was no longer important because the rationed goods themselves became harder to get?

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Thank you for the in depth reply.

Just copy/pasta from the link. I was curious so I did a quick search.

Is it saying that money was no longer important because the rationed goods themselves became harder to get?

That's essentially what I got out of it. Between Germany's fixed pricing and rationing, inflation can't get much traction with scarcity as a result. People had savings, they had the money to buy, if it was available.

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No. Any kind of (((hyperinflation))) was solely due to (((WW2))) and not a natural consequence of the economic system - capitalism - used by NSDAP Germany. Also you can't talk about the (3rd) Reich and be talking about the (((Weimar))). They didn't exist at the same time, the latter cured Germany of the former.

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That's about what I figured. Thanks.

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I’m no expert on the subject, but from my understanding it was not a capitalist economic system. I mean they literally called themselves socialist. You cannot be both socialist and capitalist. They are two different economic systems. A lot of people, especially Republicans seem to think that Socialism equals Communism, which is not the case.

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Hitler's definition of Socialism, and why he was intent on using it as a part of the name for his movement: https://pic8.co/sh/N9klMI.jpg https://pic8.co/sh/s3AfAa.jpg In short, the term was subverted, he wanted to take it back. Ultimately, history was rewritten by the (((victor))), so that's why this question keeps popping up all the time.

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...but from my understanding it was not a capitalist economic system.

You're wrong. https://files.catbox.moe/dvp700.jpg

I mean they literally called themselves socialist.

Great. No argument. You don't know what socialism is if you think it has anything to do with or against capitalism.

You cannot be both socialist and capitalist. They are two different economic systems.

One is an economic system, the other is not.

A lot of people ... seem to think that Socialism equals Communism, which is not the case.

Agree.

especially Republicans

... Disagree also who do you think Republicans are? Republicans aren't conservative and are just as liberal as "the left" but on a more relaxed timeline for instituting communism. However everyone should know that the socialism that "the left" wnats and ushers in as a means of instituting communism is not actual socialism, it's marxism.

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Forgetting Germany you have a very limited understanding of Socialism. Because it is an economic system and cannot exist alongside capitalism. You can have a sort of mixture of capitalism and Socialism, or be somewhere on the spectrum between capitalism and Socialism. But you cannot be both.

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The Weimar Republic had hyperinflation at the end of its life but what fucked Germans wasn't inflation but supply shortages by the war's end.

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Different currency completely and different economic, societal and government practices and people. Not really fair comparison.

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From a consumer perspective "the store has many cases of beans, because the money is worth less than years past each case is now $200" and "the allies blew up the cannery, and the railway from the farmlands, the store barely has any beans and to prevent resource hoarding each can is now $20" certainly would feel similar.