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I think the biggest mistake was allowing lobbying interests a sway in politics. Yet we still held this land to be for Europeans (who were here first, nothing against indians, that's a separate issue)

Now our number one threat would be the banking institutions, but i think kneecapping the already crumbling mainstream media would be first.

Maybe descend into anarchy. Strengthen the bonds of community.

Ideally I want a republic, but we need demographics on our side. What would be wrong with a philosopher ruler in a populist fascist vein, intent to only be in power for 5-10 years - send Jews to Israel (or as in the past, bar them from participating in certain occupations) deport non-whites, or set them up on reservations, maybe allow a minority of some respectable folks (NatSocs had a bit of unlikely allies in that sense).

From there restore a constitutional Republic. And the most ideal form of libertarianism

Would it be bloodless? Probably not.

I think the biggest mistake was allowing lobbying interests a sway in politics. Yet we still held this land to be for Europeans (who were here first, nothing against indians, that's a separate issue) Now our number one threat would be the banking institutions, but i think kneecapping the already crumbling mainstream media would be first. Maybe descend into anarchy. Strengthen the bonds of community. Ideally I want a republic, but we need demographics on our side. What would be wrong with a philosopher ruler in a populist fascist vein, intent to only be in power for 5-10 years - send Jews to Israel (or as in the past, bar them from participating in certain occupations) deport non-whites, or set them up on reservations, maybe allow a minority of some respectable folks (NatSocs had a bit of unlikely allies in that sense). From there restore a constitutional Republic. And the most ideal form of libertarianism Would it be bloodless? Probably not.

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The only mistake the founders made in the Constitution, was the expectation that the Citizens would actually do what it takes to maintain and uphold it.

Demonstrably wrong.

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The should have made it PROFITABLE to maintain the constitution, FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, instead of a punishment to not.

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Interesting idea. Never heard that plan expressed before I don't think.

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The 2nd amendment is our last line of defense, and time will tell

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nah, these people living in America couldnt care less about the 2nd amendment. We'll be criminals and traders just like the first group of men that created this nation.

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You get the Government you deserve.

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I beg to differ, although with casualties expected

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Would it have had more of a chance if it remained ethnically homogenous? just wondering

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Probably. Humans are tribal.

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They knew. I forget who said it, but one of the founders when asked to describe what they accomplished said "A republic, if you can keep it". There are a bunch of quotes like that, they knew the risk is that it could descend into degeneracy, that's why initially they limited the vote to white men and limited holding office to wealthy white men.

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We said the same thing. They expected the Citizens to act.

The Citizens no longer act.

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Benjamin Franklin said that. A woman citizen asked him, what is exactly they gave them. His response. " A republic, if you can keep it". Supposedly General Washington said the country wouldn't last 20 years before falling apart.

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Founding fathers did pretty good. We fucked up most of this (((interpreting))) them

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Perhaps not setting a higher bar for congress to make constitutional amendments.

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This. It's tempting to look at clown world now and say

if only they had worded that bit differently...

But these subversions all happened 100-200 years after they wrote it, and were the culmination of many preparatory steps. You can't design a perfect constitution but they came damn close to making as distant from any misinterpretation as humanly possible. For example, (((they))) love to rehash the militia meme, but if 2A didn't mention militias, they would come up with something else equally retarded, like "bearing arms means fighting with your bare hands in a duel". Remember, saying that only militias should have guns would have been equally ridiculous when first introduced.

Even if you did "fix" it, at best you would just delay the current situation by 50-100 years. After the Founding Fathers were dead and gone, shit happened that was 100x worse than any "mistake" they ever made in writing it. If a new country was created tomorrow and said they are using the Constitution and Bill of Rights as of 1791, it would already be pretty good. Just don't have a civil war over slaves this time.

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The civil war had nothing to do with slavery

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Correct.it was about states rights.

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And keeping niggers. That there alone would help a lot of we hadn't kept them. But the civil war would have never happened and things would look a lot different today.

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Not adding a provision to make private banks illegal. Not adding a provision to make dual passport holders illegible for government positions of any kind.

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I think they did, but got subverted

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Correct, constitution clearly shows the concept of a mint and currency, and shows that anyone not born in the US can't be president. They just got (((redefined))) by the usual assholes

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When you talk to the feds about greencards, they specifically ask you, "have you ever been a member of the communist party.. Do you plan on joining the communist party..."

How the fuck are all these mainland chinks coming here and buying property and getting citizenship if they actually give a flying fuck about communist party? I couldn't believe it. To make it even weirder the fucking dude doing the interview was Chinese from China...

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The Constitution does not need to change, the morality of the people do.

The Masses do not even know the Constitution.

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they also don't know what life will be like without it

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The right to vote being given to niggers and women was pretty wack, along with any ounce of power given to government to do anything, especially regarding taxes.

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1) Detail Term Limits for Federal Office. 2) Make certain companies/corporations are defined as not people and have no rights. 3) You must be a landowner to vote. No electric-counted vote, no mail in votes. You vote the day of the election, and votes are counted promptly after the polls end with impartial witnesses and civilian volunteers present at all times during the public counting. Video taping of the vote counting is encouraged at all times. 4) Dual-nationals, of any sort, cannot hold Federal (or state/local) office, give testimony to government committees, nor lobby government. 5) US Treasury prints all money in this country - all money is gold backed (or backed by another desirable tangible asset).
6) No foreign aid. Commerce, if benefical to the country, can be pursued but no outright gifts. Trade with everyone, entangling alliances with no one. 7) Outlaw military bases in foreign countries with the exception of ports for our Navy. Some limited military will provide protection at overseas embassies.
8) Outlaw the joining of this country to any international organization that can assert jurisdiction over the laws or running of any portion of the country/government. 9) Detail the requirements for secure borders at all times. All illegal aliens are removed from the country, but may apply for legal admission and wait in line, if they desire. Aliens are selected for legal residence depending upon specific benefits they can provide to the country.

That's where I would start anyway.

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Thet left out the "no Jews allowed" clause.

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Then jews would've renamed themselves to something else. If you then put a definition of jewish behavioral pattern instead, I'm sure they'd have a way to subvert and redefine that too. They've been doing this since forever, they subverted the Bible a long time ago before that.

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Citizenship for only whites. Jews aren’t white.

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Wait, shouldn't we censor the jews

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There are some excellent suggestions in here. I think banning childless people from public office would be a huge step.

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Unfortunately it can be subverted pretty easily. Fake marriage, fake children, fake name, fake birth certificate, big nose - the result? Bypassed. I don't think this enemy can be fought with rules defined on paper, they are natural born swindlers and cheaters, they were made for this kind of stuff.

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>Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Owning a gun is just half of your 2nd amendment.

They have given you a constututional right to form and train paramilitary units.

Where is your paramilitary unit?

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Let's go back to the 90s

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Let's just say that 90s where you're from and 90s where I'm from where slightly different.

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