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[–] 2 pts

not really, i just figured could have an actual discussion. my point of view isnt slightly changed from what you said, there is no depth. also this was not about gotcha i legitimately would like to discuss this, in my philosophy it seems contradictory edit: replied before i observed your edit

[–] 1 pt

Because FAITH supersedes laws of physics 'because' that's what FAITH means. Logic, proofs etc. have no place in discussions of Faith and as I stated: they always feel forced, jewish and in bad... faith. These are questions an 8 year old boy has when he doesn't want to go to Christmas Mass with the family.

[–] 2 pts

If you truly believe faith always supercedes laws of physics I have a 100ft balcony for you to jump from. 😂

Philosophy is much broader than just faith or logic.

Logic and faith always have a place in discussion and anyone saying otherwise is biased and driven by either's agenda more than the other.

If you go full retard for anti-logic you get a flat earther that thinks the sun works as a spotlight because Nuclear Fusion is a concept beyond their understanding.

If you go full retard for anti-faith you get our modern Sodom & Gomorrah because believing morals and believing in goodness as a remedy for degeneracy is a concept beyond their understanding.

Truth only comes when you can reconcile the whole coin without engaging in infantile competition betwixt their two extremes. The worlds greatest scientists and philosophers tend to share a balanced and mature outlook on such discussion rather than arguments of "MUH SCIENCE, MUH FAITH, MUH LOGIC, MUH BELIEF".

Leave those shit-tier arguments to the masses if you'd like to improve. After all blind belief in science is bad faith & using logic to come to the conclusion that there's something beyond our understanding that lies at the beginning & end of everything we know is just sound logic.

[–] 0 pt

not everyone went to church, experiencing faith late in life may make you look stupid or a shill to others does not negate the desire to learn

[–] [deleted] -1 pt

Then faith is for idiots who prefer to be told "just so" stories rather than have their daddies confess that they just plain don't know the answer to every question.

Sometimes the beginning of wisdom is to answer "I don't know. Maybe there's some way to find out..."