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I have been reading and watching quite a bit about Sandy Hook and I'm still not 100% convinced it was a hoax. in fact, it seems like this is one conspiracy that is too full of holes to believe. That being said I'm willing to have my mind changed.

I am about 10% on the fence about it and heres why. The biggest "evidence" i could find for why it was a hoax:

  • the school was closed down years before this claim was made with some photos of moldy doors. the elementary school i went to was full of nasty shit so i fail to see how this proves anything. also, if the school was closed and this was all an act, not one of the neighbors or anything came forward saying it was closed.

  • the parents are crisis actors i have seen a video of a man laughing before giving a speech about his childs death. this seems weird, but you can't definitively say how people act when traumatized. i also saw another video of 2 of the parents having done acting gigs, so that was pretty fucking disturbing to see.

  • ambulances werent allowed near this school this proves fuck all. if there is an active shooting, it makes sense the cops would tell ambulances to stay away until its safe.

  • the dead kids sang in the superbowl i can't find a lot on this. why the fuck would they have the dead kids sing in the superbowl? wouldn't that make it beyond obvious its a hoax?

  • the cops were non chalant i'm not sure this counts as evidence. in the one video i saw, the guy claims that cops who showed up at the scene stopped to run the license plate of the car, and somehow this was out of the realm of possible scenarios. this seems purely retarded.

so out of all the shit i've seen and read, the most convincing is the 2 actors. however, the could have just had acting jobs, no?

feel free to blow my asshole out with facts and logic. i'm fully prepared to be convinced this was a hoax, but so far the conspiracy theories fall short.

I have been reading and watching quite a bit about Sandy Hook and I'm still not 100% convinced it was a hoax. in fact, it seems like this is one conspiracy that is too full of holes to believe. That being said I'm willing to have my mind changed. I am about 10% on the fence about it and heres why. The biggest "evidence" i could find for why it was a hoax: - the school was closed down years before this claim was made with some photos of moldy doors. the elementary school i went to was full of nasty shit so i fail to see how this proves anything. also, if the school was closed and this was all an act, not one of the neighbors or anything came forward saying it was closed. - the parents are crisis actors i have seen a video of a man laughing before giving a speech about his childs death. this seems weird, but you can't definitively say how people act when traumatized. i also saw another video of 2 of the parents having done acting gigs, so that was pretty fucking disturbing to see. - ambulances werent allowed near this school this proves fuck all. if there is an active shooting, it makes sense the cops would tell ambulances to stay away until its safe. - the dead kids sang in the superbowl i can't find a lot on this. why the fuck would they have the dead kids sing in the superbowl? wouldn't that make it beyond obvious its a hoax? - the cops were non chalant i'm not sure this counts as evidence. in the one video i saw, the guy claims that cops who showed up at the scene stopped to run the license plate of the car, and somehow this was out of the realm of possible scenarios. this seems purely retarded. so out of all the shit i've seen and read, the most convincing is the 2 actors. however, the could have just had acting jobs, no? feel free to blow my asshole out with facts and logic. i'm fully prepared to be convinced this was a hoax, but so far the conspiracy theories fall short.

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The source for the mortgages being paid was Zillow or another real estate website. It shows when houses are paid off and when you looked at about a square mile around the school all the houses were supposedly paid off on the same day, Christmas, which is weird too because banks are closed on Christmas

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That sounds like an internet myth. Zillow and other real estate sites don't show mortgages because mortgages are not public records like property taxes are. I'm sure a private detective could dig it up but it's not readily available. That's why I would not believe it until I saw evidence. Also some of the houses were surely inherited or the owners were wealthy enough to pay cash or they lived there 30 years and paid it off. They would have no incentive to keep quiet.

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Here is the video of a guy going thru the tax site, I also went thru the same site and found it as well:

https://files.catbox.moe/30rhxr.mp4

here is gene rosen's house, paid 12/25/2009 sale price $0

https://gis.vgsi.com/newtownct/Parcel.aspx?Pid=9094

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Thanks for digging that up. It's interesting but the video maker is confused about sales and mortgages. The city records every real estate sale for tax assessment purposes but knows nothing about whether the owner has a mortgage or not. So looking at these records doesn't show that "mortgages were paid off on Dec 25, 2009." It seems to show a sale on 12/25/09 for zero dollars which seems impossible.

Also the shooting was on Dec 14. 2012 so that would mean the residents were paid off 3 years before the event. That would be an odd way to work a scam. Some of them would have sold their houses and moved away by 2012.

My theory is that the city installed a new property database in Dec 2009. They needed to enter data for every address in the city. They used Christmas day as a fake sale for zero dollars in order to have baseline data for every address. The assessed value for Rosen is $160,640 in 2017 which is how the city calculates property taxes. When Rosen sells the house, the actual date and price will be the next entry and used for the new assessment value. But this does not show that he was "given a free house" he already lived in or that his "mortgage was paid off" as the video claims.

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The sale price, date of closure, appraised value are all public. Because sale price can effect neighborhood appraisal.

I don't remember who showed what, but they did show closure on Christmas, several homes, and a couple were demolished Iirc. As was the school.

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I saw it myself. I even went to the website. I’ll try to find out what site it was on