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Prenup? Assets in trusts? Nothing? Verbal agreements?

What do we have to do as men in these times to protect ourselves best?

Prenup? Assets in trusts? Nothing? Verbal agreements? What do we have to do as men in these times to protect ourselves best?

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[+] [deleted] 6 pts
[–] 5 pts

No prenup because we are both devout catholic and death is preferable to divorce.

The only agreements we made were verbal and based around the split up of child rearing and household duties, the number of children we want (a lot and we are about halfway through already) and how we would deal with certain problems in the future (parents growing old and needing care, etc).

The mindset is simple: marriage is for life. Planning for it to fall apart means that you are willing to accept the marriage falling apart as an outcome. It is not acceptable. You must both consistently work hard so that outcome takes no root. If she does not agree with you on this, don’t bother. Seriously.

Divorce does not only curse you into misery for the rest of the life, it curses your children for many many generations after. Our current societal decline is almost completely tied to the breakdown of the family, orchestrated by the agents of Satan, the Jews.

[–] 0 pt

As far as I'm concerned this is the only way. We should NEVER have allowed the government to nose in on what is an issue of faith. I'm doing what little I can to fight for a day when we've kicked them back out of it.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

We were dating. Unplanned pregnancy. Married because of that. No prenup or any type of financial discussion. Turned out to be the best move of my life. Raised a fantastic daughter who is now independent, based and very productive. Just celebrated our 22nd anniversary. Lots to be grateful for.

[–] 0 pt

Love to hear it. About to get married, today is actually one year to the day that we met, and we have a 7 week old now lol but we have both been through really shitty things in life and know we are both the best person the other has met, we deeply love each other. The only thing we've talked about is that we stay respectful and loving each other, because all other things come and go.

[–] 2 pts

Neither of us had any real assets at the start.

We had proven to each other for years that we communicate well, hold family and the relationship as a higher priority than individual interests, that we share a similar life trajectory with her following my lead, and that we're both loyal even when times are tough.

The only negotiations we had to make were these: the marriage would immediately be ended in the unexpected case of cheating or child abuse. Besides that, we would swear before God to be family forever, and work through anything.

I think most women are not worthy of that level of trust, and you should really consider a prenup and separate finances... but I also think you shouldn't bother getting married unless you've found a woman that's clearly worthy of that level of trust.

[–] 1 pt

Nothing beyond the absolute agreement that divorce would never be on the table. Together for 13 years, seemed like essentially a perfect marriage; many children; money was always tight, but we always had each other.

I got very sick; took years to recover. Probably what pushed her over the edge. She had a mental breakdown. No warning at all; her personality completely shifted, practically overnight. Ended up walking out within 6 months of the first real revelation that something was wrong.

Been more than two years. Half the time all I can think of is Invasion of the Body Snatchers she is so different. Sometimes it literally gives me chills when I speak to her, hearing her voice but with what seems like a completely different person using it. In the end though, I took a vow and regardless of what anyone else does my children will see that honor and faithfulness are possible, and the only acceptable option.

There is essentially nothing you can do to truly protect yourself. This is a fallen world and our current, hostile legal system is just a symptom and product of that. You as a man are on the front lines of the battle, standing between the world and the ones you love. It's a fight to your death no matter what else happens. All you can do is be a man and face it, or choose a cowardly surrender and sacrifice those who depend upon you. The fact that you live at all is a testament to those who went before you. Personally, I'll keep fighting for a better world for my children and theirs.

[–] 0 pt

Thank you for your reply. I take it you ended up divorcing?

in sickness and in health

[–] 1 pt (edited )

She did get a legal divorce. I cannot recognize it as valid. The state has no jurisdiction over a holy covenant.

Also, you're welcome for the reply.

[–] 1 pt

I told her I am in charge and she can pack up 90% and leave if she has a problem with it. 18 years so far.

[–] 0 pt

19 years, actually :)

[–] 0 pt

whatever woman

[–] 0 pt

Okay, do you want a sandwich yet?

[–] 1 pt

No prenup here. We dated 3 years, and lived together a couple months before marriage. Financially we were about equivalent, no real debt and a couple thousand in savings. We did not live together while dating, but I thought it was best that we live together atleast a few months before marriage just to make sure there would be no problems. In Texas there is no provisions for alimony unless you have been married atleast 10 years. We are past that now and our marriage is still good. Were I to marry again in the future I would likely seek a prenup since I would be marrying someone younger and there is that concern that they only want your assets.

[–] 1 pt

Not married anymore, but basically it was 'let's get married'. We did. Then we got divorced. She waived alimony. She also accrued over 100k in SLD, which I am not on the hook for.

[–] 1 pt

It's good to live together a bit first. It can vet out many problems. If you're getting married you should mostly be on the same page already.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

What's mine is his, and what's his is mine, we took a vow till death do us part, and absolutely 100% meant it.