Appreciate it. I might have to give it a try. I can always add creatine separately.
This is what I use currently https://gorillamind.com/products/gorilla-mode . I actually do trust the developer of it. Derek from mpmd.
Go on Amazon and buy "Bulk Supplements" brand: Agmatine sulfate, Creatine, Glycerol Monostearate and L-Citrulline. This is a killer homemade pump formula that you can make yourself. It will be better than any pre-made because you will be able to mix a real effective dosage. Also you will save several hundred dollars a year, its much cheaper to do it this way. Buy a cheap digital scale and mix some up 1 hour before you lift. This is what I do. I looked at what you buy and it has a good ingredient list but low dosages.
Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
It's funny how in time people graduate from C4, to jacked3d, to total war, to etc., to eventually just making your own once you do the proper research.
It just saves so much money and you can control the dosage. It works out to be probably 1\4 the price per serving as it costs in premade.
...also you can buy caffein pills and take them to make a stimulant pump formula. Try Muscle Tech caffeine pills, I swear they spike them with cocaine or something! I take 1/2 pill and I get really clean long lasting energy. Its the only caffeine pill I have ever used that works for me.
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