Used to be levi jeans, turned into wranglers when levi proved they sucked. Then I got aware. Never jeans again. So I went to some carhartt cargo, loved them for a bit. Figured I needed the pockets and space if I ever had to walk home. Npw here is where it gets tricky cause I know you fuckers. I wear 5.11 now all the time. Are they tactical? Fuck whats tactical about pants especially when they have velcro? They are comfortable. Now I tried many different options they offered, I hated some of them. They are light weight and dry out really fast when wet. I only wear the ABR's now. Try em before you say you hate em without any real life input.