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Who has done the research? I'm too lazy.

Who has done the research? I'm too lazy.

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No. It only means that states must change from "may issue" to "must issue" for people applying for permits. May issue used to mean "no issue" because states required you prove a "need" for the permit instead of a right. That is what was ruled on. You do not require a need to exercise your constitutional rights

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

You do not require a need to exercise your constitutional rights

Having to get a permit sure as hell infringes on a constitutional and god given right.

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I agree. However, the courts have held that regulating firearms is not unconstitutional. I always ask anti-2a when they talk about "common sense gun control" if they also support "common sense free speech control"? Should you need a permit to talk in public. Or "common sense religion control" should you need a permit to go to church or join a club?

Watch states that were previously 'may issue' make it prohibitively expensive to get the permit.

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The New York governor already started talking about prohibiting weapons in "public" places. Subways, arenas, etc.. and she spoke about private property owners prohibiting weapons. This means they will pressure private businesses to ban guns. You will have the right to a carry permit, bit you still won't be able to take it anywhere.

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Isn't there case law already closing this loophole? I mean I'm sure places like CA would manage to charge 200-300 for the application (that's what it costs to register a car in CA btw), which still sucks, but it's not going to be a million or something.

They can't take years and years to "process" your application either. There has to be an account of where the times is being spent.

[–] 2 pts

No.

It means that if your state had a bullshit "we can give you a permit... if we wanna" law, then potentially they could be ConCarry -- when the judgment is entered. (That usually takes about a month, and has to happen in the NY court of appeals.) What is likely to happen is for the NY legislature (and all the others) to scramble to put together a shall-issue regime.

The court specifically said that they can require a carry license, as long as it is like a driver's license -- meaning, you pass a test, pay a small fee, pass a background check, and now you are licensed.

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Here in FL buying guns is relatively easy, but a CC permit means a class ($200 and 6-8 hours of classroom blather). I don't wanna. I shouldn't HAVE. If I can legally buy a pistol, I should be able to carry it open or concealed, wtf?

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Concarry will be passed in fl this fall session.

But why would you care about any law restrictions that are unconstitutional? Fuck them fuck their thievery and licenses and fuckin fuck their thug enforcers TRY ME ZOGBOTS.

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Besides, if you're properly carrying concealed, then nobody will know.

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But I don't wanna go to jail when cops pat me down juss bcuz I'm ridin muh bike in a ritzy neighborhood, wearing a 'Slayer' shirt and looking like a deranged hitman

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Here in AZ because of constitutinal carry. Ccw classes are $20.

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I agree. Talk to your legislature.

We finally got ConCarry passed in TX. We still offer the CCL, but now all it gives you is reciprocity and skipping the NICS check at the gunshop.

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For the states who still offer ccl with OC, it's really about reciprocity with other states. If you cross state lines then ccl is still a good option. Shouldn't need it, but it's where we are.

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I have no problem with this.

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That was the original intent of the 2nd Amendment! No question!

It should. That is clearly Constitutional yet infringed upon.

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I wonder (((who))) is behind this?

--the original language of the amendment seems clear to me. 'I can own weapons to defend myself with'.

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you always could. God given right recognized by the 2nd amendment

When some badge tries to tell you you cant, youll know why God gave you that right

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That badge has the power of the State behind him. I only have a cat.

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the State is a mental state that can be cleared quickly

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"May issue" in any state statute is now void, but the licensing requirement and the rest of the statute otherwise still stand. In all likelihood this gives you the ability to petition for a license if denied, and the state legislature will have to amend the statute, but doesn't give you the immediate right to carry. You will still need to apply for a license.

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I can't wait to walk into Walmart with a STG-44

If you can even find one of those for a sane price. I'm still pissed about HMG botching the development and release of their reproductions. Fucking scumbags, many people wanted one and had to cancel their preorders on guns that never materialized. Had to pull fucking teeth to receive the refunds.