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Many assume that what's done on a screen can be easily translated to the physical world. They assume people who do physical labor must do so because they are less intelligent or less skilled, so they believe moving into their jobs would be easy for them if needed. When they need something done, they call an electrician, a mechanic, a maid, a carpenter, ect. Professionals make it look easy, and it's done quickly. They really have no clue. It's why you hear so many sentences come out of their mouth that start with "Just ...". When they're finally faced with "just" having to do some minor household tasks, they'll finally realize how much they took for granted.

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Can you give a specific example or two of who you mean by they

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I'll throw in some examples.

HR staff.

Marketing departments.

Anyone with a college degree working at Starbucks or selling in retail.

People who fill administrative rolls in office jobs.

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The people I started working with years ago (writing software) would never have stopped on the first draft of functional code. They were interested in how the systems worked, so their curiosity dug them deeper into the realization of just how complex even the most simple things can be. Now, I see people who instead accept these first operational passes as proof of their competency, or even genius. You can make a nice living today, without ever having to think further. Enough money typically, to pay for others to take care of tasks in your life like repairs, cleaning, landscaping, etc. Of course, it's not just in software. There are all sorts of jobs available now that can be accomplished without complete knowledge of how the systems work behind the scenes, mostly thanks to software. Couple that with the lifestyle this affords, and you have a person that's never experienced just how difficult basic tasks can be without help or leverage. It has much more to do with interest than the type of labor involved, that is, I don't want to imply that it is a physical versus intellectual labor pissing contest as most will interpret it.

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You know as a knownledge worker that goes both ways. You cant imagine how many senstences directed to me start with "just" and end with a proposal that should never have started with the word "just".

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And just because it's done on a screen you think it's easy...

See how that works? No?

I did both, physical and intellectual labor, and I can tell one thing; when one shits on somebody else's job, it's out of sheer ignorance 99% of the time, that's what I've noticed

Blue collars like to shit on white collars, and vice versa, just like programmers like to shit on designers, and vice versa, exact same shit

"It's not a real job!" fuck off

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The people shitting on everyone elses jobs are exactly the kind of people I'm talking about. You don't tend to do that if you've tried to tackle problems on your own. To clarify the screen comment, I'm referring to on screen tasks that employ Doug Engelbar's augmentation theories, which are great - but we shouldn't forget that they are in fact a form of leverage that rely on the work of others.

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>but we shouldn't forget that they are in fact a form of leverage that rely on the work of others.

Yeah... And you rely on what when you buy your gears/tools from asian sweatshops? Same deal, it's a different form, you're taking advantage of their lower standards of living

I mean, "a form of leverage that rely on the work of others" what isn't exactly that at one point or another?