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Maybe with flying cars stuff like that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia#Modern_utopias

Maybe with flying cars stuff like that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia#Modern_utopias

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Segregation

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That has been done. You see where it inextricably leads. That is not a valid solution. For a solution to be effective, it must be more aggressive.

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You know very well what we need to do.

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Does it rhyme with 'tire up the covens'?

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Maybe it does, maybe it don't, what's in it for me?

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Hopefully, lots of (rhymes with 'dead shoes').

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Utopia is essentially a liberal concept. Think about it. A society where everything is perfect, and everyone has all that he needs. But the ways proposed to achieve those goals are impractical and won't work. Utopia and the platform of the Democratic Party are the same. Pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking.

We need to get rid of gasoline-powered cars. Why? Because some billionaire said so, and the media repeated it and kept on repeating it. Does it make any sense? No. Then why are we doing it? Because they said so, over and over and over.

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Utopia is essentially a liberal concept.

It is a concept born out of Man's desire to get back into Eden without God's permission, liberal has become a catch all buzzword and has therefore lost any objective meaning

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Utopia is such a faggot notion. Fuck utopia. Embrace conflict, embrace struggle and thrive in it.

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There is no utopia in this world. The oil in the engine of the world is pain. We strive for what is not possible in this world because we crave heaven.

There is no society of pure comfort. Basically, the world is just going to be chaos and bullshit until you die, and the only saving grace is you get to try to do what's right while you're here.

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I've been theorizing on this for many years so I will elaborate a bit but summarize the best I am able. First, what is a utopia to you? If you want it to mean never working, having your every whim provided, and only living for pleasure then you are just a wishful king with no kingdom. Only a ruler can ever achieve such a thing and it can only be provided from the energy of thousands of men for the profit of one. That's not a utopia, that's modern serfdom.

Then there are the ones who believe that perhaps (after they are long dead) there will be robots providing all this work and energy for us and many people can live like kings. Or perhaps we will make them too smart and they will be the kings and us the slaves?

So then let's define it as sane men. We want freedom, peace, good health, minimum necessary work with more free time, an ample and cheap supply of items we desire, perhaps a longer lifespan with less aging related issues. Of course that's not all, we all want comfort and safety and happiness, etc. A master list is needed.

Then, define what takes those things away from you, your family, and your neighbors. By removing those things from our lives we will achieve a realistic utopia. So easy, right? Of course not.

Listing and deciding to walk this narrow path could be achieved in a matter of an hour. The difficult part is when conflict arises, who settles that conflict? And do not forget the powers and kingdoms that already exist who will not take kindly to us carving our own path through their empires.

Those who choose to work together for these goals must do so inwardly instead of outwardly, and then slowly many other such communities all under the same goals and understandings must also work inwardly as a whole group.

Of course all of this is just a drop in the bucket, but it's flowing in the right direction I suppose.

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A high birth rate, and a high bar for keeping your nads til the end of puberty.

By 11, you should be able to...
a) solo a bear
b) run a marathon
c) perfectly memorize and recite a 52-card shuffle after thumbing through it once
d) ace any calculus test
e) have model-quality good looks
f) be an expert musician, or
g) idk, something about empathy and the ability to bring people together

...or any number of other exceptional, desirable aptitudes.

Anyways, that's the fastest eugenics method, with geography divided amongst nobility who each pursue a particular eugenic ideal.

You'd have to exclude genetically inferior men from breeding, so you can eliminate undesirable traits for a future Utopia. Traits that no one can quite agree on. You'll need self-destructing governments capable of self-improving by reconstituting themselves, based on criteria no one can quite agree on.

In fact, that's an important missing piece. Whose Utopia are we talking about? Are we talking equal outcomes, equal opportunities, or natural law? Are we talking about absurd abundance and leisure, everyone having a meaningful struggle requiring personal excellence, or a life of devotion to our posterity and gratitude to our ancestry? The truth is only the latter can include all three.

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It's an abstract idea that's unobtainable. Besides, everyone has a different idea of utopia. My idea of utopia is to be left alone by politicians. Of course, this will never be achieved. Even having jews leave me alone won't happen.

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Modern cities but with all non degenerate fit healthy whites and plenty of parks is my idea of utopia.

Clean white cities are that great. Kansas City seems nice at a glance but that's compared to shit hole St Louis.

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It's what we need not. We have too much to make it.

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