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There are good, cheap cell phones available on many websites that are unlocked and have no SIM card. Their brands are not recognized by the Major Providers. Verizon and AT&T won't touch them. I presume this may be because they are less profitable and harder to intrude on your privacy, but maybe there are other reasons.

Has anybody used one? Are there reliable cell service providers for them in the US?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

There are good, cheap cell phones available on many websites that are unlocked and have no SIM card. Their brands are not recognized by the Major Providers. Verizon and AT&T won't touch them. I presume this may be because they are less profitable and harder to intrude on your privacy, but maybe there are other reasons. Has anybody used one? Are there reliable cell service providers for them in the US? Thanks in advance for any advice.

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I have owned a number of OnePlus phones and have been very happy - OnePlus phones come with an OS (Oxygen) that's very close to stock Android, and the company is very friendly to you running a custom ROM if that's what you're looking for. Thought the price has gone up through iterations it's still less than a "Flagship" phone, but with really nice stats, especially the "Pro" models. These phones use many of the common cell "Bands" (3/4/5G/LTE) - I am on AT&T, and my parents are on Cricket - the phones work perfectly with both providers. We buy our phones direct from the oneplus.com site and swap the sim over - no need to let the provider know what we're doing as frankly it's none of their damn business.

The only downside I will point out is that we don't benefit from WiFi calling, though the phone is capable of doing this AT&T (in my case) chooses to not offer this functionality. It's not a phone limitation, and though I have had MANY calls with AT&T, they have the stance that enabling this on accounts with only the devices the sell is a "benefit" customers get. We have been given a free microcell as well as upgraded units to live around this limitation in our home.

T-Mobile just started carrying this brand in the last 2 years, but not being a T-Mobile customer I can't say how hard they push it, or if it was a one-and-done event, so this might not "Technically" qualify as not-recognized, it's still certainly not mainstream.

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I'm waiting for the refurb Pixel 5a's to get cheaper and switch over to Graphene OS.

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I have the last one https://esolutions.shop/

Nothing to complain

I am happy of no google

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What cell phone provider do you use?

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Iliad, in Italy, currently on LTE

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I use cell mapper to figure out what towers have which bands on which carrier. Once you have that, you will know what phones will work .

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It depends on what carrier you want & what bands are available in your area.

If you really want to go for an off brand phone I suggest using a band scanner to find out what bands are available for the carrier you want in your area. You may only have 2 of the 5 & the phone you want says works with Verizon but is missing the 2 you need. lol So write them down once you order an overseas phone you're kinda fucked.

In an ideal world you have the bands written down for all pre-paids in your area.

Then go to kimobil and find a china phone you want that has the bands you need. catbox wasn't working so here's a 3 day image https://litter.catbox.moe/xccsz7.png

https://www.kimovil.com/en/

Tmobil $15 prepaid works with a Umidigi F1 for my area but not sure on yours.

If price is the factor you can wait for blackfriday wallmart & just get a pre-paid Samsung on sale for $45 bucks.

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I think T-mobile is the go-to for people using a "different" phone. You can look up what the Librem guys do as they are in a similar situation.

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I wonder if they give out a different amount of radiation, compared to the "commercial" ones. I was thinking about getting a Pixel phone and installing a custom, privacy focused, OS on it.