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I bought a weight set that included a rack. Of course they're all made in China so you have no choice.

While I'm putting together the rack I notice that their 17mm bolts are so far out of spec that the 17mm socket fits so loosely that I'm afraid it's going to strip the cheap Chinesium metal they're made out of, and of course 16mm won't fit. But that wasn't the worst of it. The retarded moron who designed the thing put the bolt holes so close to corners that you can't fit a wrench on the bolt. Dude, this is like comical Kindergarten-level engineering.

Then the dumbbells themselves. Ho-lee-shit. The "20 lb" ones weighed in at 21.5 lbs. each, but the 30 lb. ones were 29 lbs. Every weight was off by 10-20%.

You'd think that's all that could be wrong with a set of dumbbells, but you'd be wrong. They were also rubber coated, but the rubber stank so bad I couldn't bring them in the house. First I tried washing them with soap and water. Then I tried leaving them in the sun for three days in 90+ degree weather to bake off the smell. Then I left them sit in the garage for a week and they still stank up the whole garage. After the week several of the weights started developing cracking and peeling rubber.

So I had to return that set and went looking. Every fucking weight I can find at any store anywhere is similar junk. I found some plain cast iron dumbbells at a local sporting goods store, but of course they're made in China. Some of them have knurling on the handles and others don't. Some of them have sharp metal burrs on the handles that would cut your hand. Some of the heavier ones had the weights detaching from the handle, or had rust.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. Why can't they just make something even half way decently without some white guys standing over them to supervise they way Apple has to?

I bought a weight set that included a rack. Of course they're all made in China so you have no choice. While I'm putting together the rack I notice that their 17mm bolts are so far out of spec that the 17mm socket fits so loosely that I'm afraid it's going to strip the cheap Chinesium metal they're made out of, and of course 16mm won't fit. But that wasn't the worst of it. The retarded moron who designed the thing put the bolt holes so close to corners that you can't fit a wrench on the bolt. Dude, this is like comical Kindergarten-level engineering. Then the dumbbells themselves. Ho-lee-shit. The "20 lb" ones weighed in at 21.5 lbs. each, but the 30 lb. ones were 29 lbs. Every weight was off by 10-20%. You'd think that's all that could be wrong with a set of dumbbells, but you'd be wrong. They were also rubber coated, but the rubber stank so bad I couldn't bring them in the house. First I tried washing them with soap and water. Then I tried leaving them in the sun for three days in 90+ degree weather to bake off the smell. Then I left them sit in the garage for a week and they still stank up the whole garage. After the week several of the weights started developing cracking and peeling rubber. So I had to return that set and went looking. Every fucking weight I can find at any store anywhere is similar junk. I found some plain cast iron dumbbells at a local sporting goods store, but of course they're made in China. Some of them have knurling on the handles and others don't. Some of them have sharp metal burrs on the handles that would cut your hand. Some of the heavier ones had the weights detaching from the handle, or had rust. WHAT. THE. FUCK. Why can't they just make something even half way decently without some white guys standing over them to supervise they way Apple has to?

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In Chinese culture it is morally acceptable to cheat if you can get away with it.

This is the end result.

Damn, even the Chinese are jews.

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They actually respect the jews. There was a whole article/video that was really popular a year or two ago where a Chinese professor was talking about how they were studying the jews for their ability to control the western world though gilt and manipulation. They are trying to emulate this anywhere possible.

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Ethical anti-work.

This goes to capitalist dogs paying for our enslavement? ...oh, let me bust ass on this.

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because they aren't actual people. Like not in the sense that you and I are. There's a reason that 4chan calls them bug-people.

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Nobody in the west can sue China (its why global companies accept millions of dollars of losses pulling out of China, or accept your technology being stolen).

Accomplishments matter more than use (I. E. Why China has the most high speed rail and most of it goes nowhere).

If you can cheat and produce a product(I. E. Make something, anything), you're great in that society.

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Yet, we wonder how they continue to crank out Iphones and google phones and wifi cameras etc... The problem is the company that paying China to produce the products. if anything is left out of the spec. you get what you get. That's one of the reasons I buy shit off of Amazon. If it's shit. I drop it off at the UPS offic, no questions asked and it doesn't have to be in the original packaging. I have cut back a lot on amazon purchases but if I get shit , I just return it. let them fuckers take a loss for selling shit.

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That's not how it works, though. Usually there's a Chinese factory that makes widgets. They advertise their widgets super cheap on shit like Alibaba and offer custom branding. American companies buy the shit and resell it, or just drop ship it. Nobody gave the Chinese stupid specs, they came up with it on their own.

Products that are more well-made are the ones that come with designs and specifications made by someone distinctly not Chinese.

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I think we said pretty much said the same thing. not sure where the disconnect was.

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because they learned from the jews

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They have a range of factories there that can put out quality competitive with Europe/NA at lower prices, but also factories that cut as many corners as possible. I know in the watch world Chinese production has a huge stigma but the reality is that a lot of "Swiss made" watches are mostly made in China and get away with the marketing since they just put in a Swiss movement.

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If they even bother to make something in the West any more, it is expensive. Often, this means there is good reason to use good materials, design in a good margin of strength, and have high QA standards. You're going to have to charge more, so you have to provide something for that. China is better at manufacturing than any other country, and, when they want to, they can produce as well or better. But first of all Chinese products tend to be cheap (you get what you pay for), and secondly you are exposed to fraud from suppliers, which you have to weed out.

As a buyer, one immediate effect is that branding becomes nigh-worthless. It can say Cuisinart, or it can say some unknown Chinese brand. The two might be manufactured in the same place. Neither does insisting on made in wherever ensure quality. I think this is why a lot of people just go toward the bottom. At least you didn't overpay that way.

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The commies purged all the intelligent Chinese and what you are left with are the absolute retards. It's very sad.

Understanding how the Chinese buy parts to make things is the key. I have a relative that tried to have furniture manufactured in China. Eventually it was a disaster and they had to stop and the following is why.

Lets say a chair requires 4 different kinds of bolts. They will send someone down to one of these Chinese markets and look for bolts, any bolts it doesn't matter if they fit the spec or not, just something kind of close. They will then make the chair with these random bolts they purchased. Next month when they have to fill an order for 10000 more chairs, they'll do the same. Of course the random bolts they buy next time will be completely different and will not match the previous month's production. And those bolts might also be crap or made out of Zinc and end up breaking. Specs don't matter much. A blueprint is a suggestion to them, not a mandate.

(These markets are huge by the way and vendors are selling literally anything and everything. However its always whatever they managed to get ahold of, or had extras of, or whatever. So no way to predict what they'll have in stock.)

Everything they make is like that, they don't produce much to spec as much as buy whatever random stuff they can get at whatever price. They'll change out plastics, casters, the upholstery even for different colors, etc. Making anything consistently is impossible.

The only way you can make a quality product in China is if you own the factory and you make or source all the parts yourself, in order to make sure all the parts will always be the exact same ones and to spec. Otherwise expect to get whatever random stuff they bought at the nearest market.

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