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Very people can store enough food for more than a month or even a week.

So what can be grown in the smallest amount of space to be self sustaining?

Potatoes in barrels? Vertical hydro phonics? What plants?Tilapia farming in crates?

Egg laying chickens? Meat chickens?

Beans? The dreaded bugs?

What?

No we aren't talking people with a few acres. I mean people who have to go victory garden style in 1/4 acre or less.

Let's say shit was going to be scarce for 2 years.

Very people can store enough food for more than a month or even a week. So what can be grown in the smallest amount of space to be self sustaining? Potatoes in barrels? Vertical hydro phonics? What plants?Tilapia farming in crates? Egg laying chickens? Meat chickens? Beans? The dreaded bugs? What? No we aren't talking people with a few acres. I mean people who have to go victory garden style in 1/4 acre or less. Let's say shit was going to be scarce for 2 years.

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My grandfather used to grow potatoes with a stack of car tires lol. Every time his potatoes grew 6inches he'd throw a tire on it and fill it with dirt, then again & again. Until he had a stack of 6 - 8 tires stacked vertically. When he removed the car tires he had enough potatoes to fill buckets.

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Your community. You can't do everything by yourself for very long

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This is the answer. Find people/families/community you can work with and get focused on a plan.

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I bet if took over a prison he could live off eating black fellers a few years.

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Based and sickle cell pilled

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Correct. Having a group of like minded people, while more mouths to feed, is also more people to watch your back and help out.

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Air rifle and pellets imo.

You don't need bullets to kill rabbits or birds and cheap as fuck.

get a pcp and you could take out cats and foxes if you were really hungry.

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There aren't near enough of those in modern places to feed even one person for a year an certainly not when everyone hunts them. They won't last 3 days.

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If you're in a city or big town you're fucked anyway, just about everything is farmed in the country to sustain cities.

You don't need to do it, but you don't want food on display either if you've got hungry ass neighbours and a garden full of crops and chickens.

Maybe in the states everyone has guns it sucks, but barely anyone has them where I live so it's a good option for me.

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And you can cast more pellets, much easier than reloading ammo.

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Air rifles and pocket rocket sling shots.

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I'm working on an aquaponics system currently for me and my family. I'm waiting on 2 250gal tanks/pools to arrive. I'm putting catfish in one(already have a 150 gal with tilapia). The second one arriving, I'm considering freshwater shrimp. I've never raised shrimp but I hate paying so much money for them so it's worth a shot to me.

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Foraging.

Know where the fish are, know where the birds fly, know what plants you can eat. You would be surprised how much of suburbia is edible. Stop putting poison on your lawn and learn to love the dandelion and the other edible weeds you pull up because retarded boomers think they are ugly.

The trick is to store food for winter, but to know how to find food for the rest of the time. The good news is the disruption will kill a lot of the worthless. Look at the niggers and boomers with diabetes. Culled by God when shit hits the fan. The aids faggots? done for. The hambeasts? not gonna make it. A lot of the people that cause problems in clown world, can only exist in clown world.

With that said you will need things other than food. Like iodine for cleaning wounds and fish antibiotics for infections. Learning how to make hard tack and learning what the pioneers ate will go a long way. Stock piling salt and learning how to can will go a long way.

Storing food and these items makes you a target. Knowing how to survive makes you an asset. You also have to believe that the worst case scenario will happen and you will be overrun by niggers. Most of us are not a three day walk from the cities, a three day walk is what you need so that the riff raff dies off in the wilderness. So you have to be prepared to escape with only what you have on you, and have an idea where to go that the others won't follow.

Now a strong community will survive a lot, and would be harder to siege than a lone cabin in the woods.

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Real problem with all this is if it gets to the point you need to forage in suburbia there are far too many people in suburbia

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Maybe. I suspect the collapse will be in stages. We were real close with the lockdowns.That's why the "elites" have been panicking lately. The feeder plant that makes all the medicine chemicals is in china, and due to covid caused bottle necks were were close to running out of various chemicals needed for various treatments. So how long do cancer patients live without medicine? how long do homosexuals live without aids medicine? How many old people die of hypertension because their pill regimes are disrupted? We were real close to having a lot of fucking parasites die off.

So in a collapse situation, a lot of suburbia will go. A lot of karens and boomers and soy fags only exist in clown world, and when chaos world hits the infrastructure they need to survive is gone. by default a loooooooooot of kikes will die off. https://myhealth.alberta.ca/Health/Pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=tv7879 I mean that's one source but kikes are a monster that only lives in clown world. Without clown world, the kikes die.

I mean to be real, you can't really prepare for this. It will have variables that will catch you off guard. The best preparation is a strong community that will support each other when chaos world hits. My observations tell me that the suburbs will fall before the cities, but in a more subtle way. the cities will be strung along toward the very end because the rich want to escape the rampaging orc-golem hordes before they realize what's going on.

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Potatoes will sustain you. most other plants won't. So it's not just about square footage in your garden. Potatoes are vulnerable to blight (that thing that starved the Irish two centuries ago). If you get the blight, it destroys your soil -- you can't grow potatoes in that earth any longer.

Raising chickens is the most cost effective meat source your can raise yourself in a small area. It is unpleasant, smelly, bloody work, and most people would not like doing it at all. But it has the largest payoff for the work and time you put into it.

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I think if grow potatoes in bags then you can separate soils.

How is blight transmitted? Would store bought potatoes have it?

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I hear rabbits are one of the cheapest and easiest meat sources

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Buy a few pounds of seeds and make sprouts or micro greens. You can grow them all year. You will need clean water though. Personally I like Todd’s Seeds. https://seeds.toddsseeds.com/wholesalesproutingseeds/

I would also do chickens if you can.

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Thanks but I don't see how sprouts can provide 2000 calories a day.

Am I wrong?

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It’s a supplement, not a full meal.

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Aquaponics in theory, but the people suggesting your community have the right idea.

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I get 90# of potatoes in an area the is 24' long and about 4-5' wide. Enough soybeans for dozens of edemame side dishes for my family of 5 in an area 24' by 2'. both require basically no effort other than planting and store very well. Asparagus will provide for 20 years without any other effort other than pruning the ferns in late winter. Plant it once and youre done. apples, pears, peaches and be pruned to any size you want and provide for years. Not sure what area you are in but figs and persimmons will provide for years and years too and dont take up a lot room.

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Enough soybeans

Yay you shouldnt eat those.

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How far south do you need to be for these or are they winter proof?

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izone 7 or higher for the figs. potatoes and soybean are summer annual crops but everything else is pretty winter hardy.

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Eating the dead.

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