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Rubles are traded over normal ForEx venues. Shouldn't be a problem.

Right now $1 = 81.5942 rubles.

The problem will occur if your rubles are in an account that can be seized by a government.

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Wow. I believe it was 88 this morning.

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USD is going to the toilet because Russia looked at sanctions, LOL'd, and announced it will only accept rubles or gold for energy sales.

Game over petrodollar, you blew it all up.

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I expect the Ruble will rise much more. The federal reserve note, not so much.

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As the USD loses customers, we're going to feel a hurt. Of course this will incentivize domestic production of goods.

We'll see how it plays out.

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It was 158 at the low last week or two.

Was 77 normally.

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Seems like it's recovering nicely in spite of sanctions.

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"The problem will occur if your rubles are in an account that can be seized by a government.'

Is there any way to avoid that? Can you trade in foreign countries from America via computer so foreign account is harder to seize?

What countries are friendly to investors and are less likely to seize accounts if the USA decides Americans can't own rubles?

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Find a brick and mortar currency exchange, buy them there and hold the physical rubles.

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That or high volume trading into/out of an intermediary currency but retail currency exchange speculation is pretty hard to make a profit off of because of the fees associated with it.

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You simply need to take delivery.

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Check with the bank first to see if your account held this way will cause any problems (violates any laws) for you or the bank:

Open a swiss bank account online. Ask to have deposit converted to and held in rubles.

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Swiss bank account thing sounds good. Never have done that. Time to try I guess

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Russia is in a war and therefore has high expenditures. Government spending, if not paid for with taxes, is inflation.

All governments deficit spend, thus all fiat currencies lose value over time. Investing in ANY fiat currency is stupid. Investing in the fiat currency of a country at war is extremely stupid.

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theyve got unused inventory, free military labor, excess energy, positive trade balance, and a gold standard.

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None of that makes Rubles a good investment. At best, they make it less bad than investing in some other fiat currency. No one should ever invest in any fiat currency.

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Bitcoin-> terra -> terrarub I think it exists.

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Forex exchange. I think just an account and you can get started.

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One can probably convert any one currency to a other via day trading the value of currencies.

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That's what I want to know

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Actually impressive that the £ to ruble rate is better now than in february.

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Isn't it pegged to gold now? Forex is a thing, but generally people make highly leveraged trades on there in order to exploit small movements. Someone may not want to lend you large amounts of money agains a war currency.

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Because the ruble is backed by oil and gas, I expect the next move by the u.s. will be to attempt to sabotage russia's infrastructure and production.

My guess is to expect "suicide drones", and attacks on oil wells, and oil refineries in russia, done by the u.s. and israel, to be blamed on baltic and eastern european third parties. Maybe muslims as the scapegoat.

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Hello Comrade, I am Russian and if you send me bitcoin I will post you all the rubles.

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'Silver'- is the best investment at this time.