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[–] 16 pts

Being a mother who stays at home needs to be a celebrated thing in our culture. I'm a millenial and grew up with boomer parents whose mother was the breadwinner. I graduated at the top of my class, won shitloads of awards and scholarships, and constantly was told "career, career,career!" (Especially, STEM career.)

I aced all my classes, but I wasn't interested in STEM careers and honestly, the thought of toiling in the workforce with 2 weeks of annual vacation seemed fucking awful. Becoming a doctor (everyone pushed me to go for that) seemed impractical. While I was never EVER instructed in anything motherhood related, I had enough common sense and biological imperative to know I would probably want kids and that pursuing an MD would fuck that up. I went into teaching because it felt natural and I enjoyed being around kids and I thought it would be smart to have a job whose schedule aligns with my potential children. There was palpable disappointment in my choice as I was "too good and too smart" to be "just a teacher."

The only thing I knew I wanted to be was a grandmother. Baking pies and snuggling little kids seemed like this thing grandmothers did and I had this strange disconnect with motherhood since it was wrapped up in all this career and other bullshit (not to mention a total lack of instruction in understanding female fertility, breastfeeding, infant care, etc.) I knew motherhood was this necessary step to grandmotherhood and I had this idea I would have to grin and bear motherhood to reach my goal. My perception was based off of how I grew up watching my mom stressed the fuck out working full time along with parenting duties.

All this is to say that shit is fucked up for the girls (and I'm not even addressing the hypergamy issue or social media aspect contributing to this situation). While I stay at home and homeschool my kids (which of course elicited another round of disappointment because I am "too smart to be JUST a mom"), I am lucky to be a non mainstream thinker because the anti natal, SAHM life is drudgery, you-go-girl-get-that-job mentality is everywhere. No one is encouraging girls (and especially, the really smart girls) to be mothers or even figure out the best way to gel motherhood with a career. You just start having your bio clock scream at you in your mid-20s and have to figure it out. It's very cruel for society to refuse to instill guidance about motherhood.

Getting women back into the homes as mothers and wives (and the valuable community support roles women had when they were all at home), require that motherhood be glorified as worthy. This message needs to be propagandized big time. This will be a lot more convincing than the "get in the kitchen" attitude. Of course, if society is at the point of cracking skulls, that will change. But until the right wing can enforce these kinds of gender roles, propaganda featuring mothers as something aspirational would help a lot.

[–] 2 pts

Every time another woman tells me she's a stay-at-home mom I make sure to tell her how lucky she is! It makes me sad when they act embarrassed by it.

[–] 1 pt

Although, being a first level supervisor in an office environment is typically a shit job everywhere. I tried it for a while, and half the time it felt like I was babysitting adults. And having to deal with hiring, firing, and occassional legal issues was more than I wanted to put up with. Plus, in my business, supervisors take on a a lot of legal liability and one screw up could mean money out of their pocket. Not worth it for a marginal pay increase.

[–] 1 pt

Great writeup, thanks!

No one is encouraging girls (and especially, the really smart girls) to be mothers or even figure out the best way to gel motherhood with a career. Those who would encourage it would be accused of being sexist by (((society))). We need people to take the insult, shrug it off, and encourage it anyway.

Consider being a teacher. Once kiddos get a bit older, you’ll have free time….

I really think that’s a huge part of why our schools are failing; intelligent, capable women migrating from classrooms to the workforce. Before that migration, I think many gravitated to the classroom and help to sharpen the minds of our future generations.

I can easily think back to those that fit into that category…and just as easily recall those that couldn’t have hacked it anywhere else.

[–] 2 pts

I worked as a classroom teacher for a while but left because pro white, critical thinking teachers are not welcome. I homeschool now but do teach homeschool co-op classes. It's a much better fit for me right now.

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[–] 8 pts

All nigger workplace.

Makes the women uncomfortable due to sexual harassment, but the niggers can't be fired because dats racis

[–] 7 pts

Elevate the Christian Mother and Father as a societal ideal again. This is where women can shine-- raising kids and taking care of a husband and home. Let men lead. Let men raise the boys. Single motherhood is destroying the development of men.

[–] 5 pts

Tell them there is roofing involved with the job or high voltage electrical repair.

[–] 1 pt

or getting heavy boxes off/onto shelves

[–] [deleted] 5 pts

It will only come from other women. We need to change the culture so women start shaming other women again.

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Shaming was a very effective tool for millennia, but the jew hippies destroyed that too.

[–] 5 pts

It's going to take a dose of reality. Right now, most people live in fantasyland. They have been told women can do everything men can do for so long, they believe it. It's not true. We need most people to recognize that women can't do everything men can do. They can't be effective policemen, for example, or firemen, or soldiers. They don't have the physical or emotional tools to do the jobs.

[–] 4 pts

Show them my hands & tell them theirs'll probably look like that in about a month.

[–] 4 pts

Women took all the HR jobs and hired all women. Until you get them out of the HR jobs nothing will change

[–] 1 pt

HR shouldn't even Be a job! Worthless scam ever pulled on companies! We don't have one where I'm at, I mean we are supposed to but she don't want to do it so we effectively don't have one! LOL. Everything works out a Lot better for all of us!

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Just stay back and don't get any on you. Don't help them if you don't have to and if you do play the dumb man they think every man is. That not only inflates their ego but they end up having to do all the work themselves anyway.

I worked at one company that was crashing and burning all because of the women in charge. I could tell horror stories about the shit they did. After that I went into different industries and every single company has major issues with women. Now I work for myself and once in a while I come across a woman whining about the job that pays her more than she deserves. It's also some variation of waaaah I don't want to work. It's not fair!!!

Honestly, just keep clear and let them fuck it up for themselves. Even the most ambitious, intelligent, go getter type A woman seems to hate work after two or three years (being VERY generous). They can't handle the miserable grind of up early, tedious work, responsibility and taking shit from an idiot boss. They burn out fast.

[–] 3 pts

I hire and promote strictly on merit. That alone goes a long way. Sucks a lot to be trying to roll on one income the traditional way right now because unless everyone starts doing it wages are still going to be far lower than they should be.

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