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Been giving a lot of thought to this. Whatever we currently has seems to sucks balls, rules by corporations and Israel. Don’t really know what to believe anymore.

I see Nazi stuff here (string central gov) but also anti Fed/anti Gov and pro Confederacy. I guess there’s several opinions floating around.

In your opinion what is the best form of government, and why?

Is it monarchism? Fascism? Demo Repub? Democracy? Anarchy? Etc.

Been giving a lot of thought to this. Whatever we currently has seems to sucks balls, rules by corporations and Israel. Don’t really know what to believe anymore. I see Nazi stuff here (string central gov) but also anti Fed/anti Gov and pro Confederacy. I guess there’s several opinions floating around. In your opinion what is the best form of government, and why? Is it monarchism? Fascism? Demo Repub? Democracy? Anarchy? Etc.

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I think the form of government by which the US was founded is ideal. The US constitution, along with the Bill of Rights, is as ideal as it gets in an imperfect world.

In view of the issues we face in modern times, I do not credit this as a deficiency in the founding documents as many people do. Rather, I believe it is a combination of complacency, laziness, lack of wisdom, and immorality that has led us to this point.

The constitution, as written, is not being followed and hasn’t for many years. There has not been a powerful enough defense of those principles or those documents.

When the government was originally formed, someone asked one of the founders (I believe it was Franklin) “what type of government have you given us, sir.”

He replied “A republic, if you can keep it, ma’am.”

You see, even the founders were wary of man’s tendencies to become complacent, immoral, etc.

There is no form of government that can guard against that (except perhaps a theocracy but that eventually equates to authoritarianism anyhow).

I’m not saying that the form of government doesn’t matter. It does. But just because a civilization collapses isn’t necessarily because the form of government was incorrect. The culture is the heart of it all, and ours is soured.

As they say, everything (including politics) is downstream of culture.

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I disagree. The constitution failed in 1861. Implied in the nature of a social contract is the principle of secession. If you can't leave, then the government doesn't serve you, you serve the government.

It failed even worse when Lincoln instituted the draft. The government protects your rights... until it declares war, in which case it can round you up like a bunch of slaves, hand you off to be ordered about by incompetent religious loonies, and execute you for treason if you exercise your 1st Amendment right to complain. The entire theory and foundation of the constitution was thrown out by the children and grandchild of those who wrote it. (I'm a northerner btw.)

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Yeah I do think they did a great job with constitutional amendments and everything. Just ends up being kind of pointless if it is not being followed. Really disheartening seeing it all go downhill to the highest bidder. Even the culture is just so trashy now. All about bling and hustle culture and work till death (for corporations that don’t care about you) etc