>>And where did you get that US army did mass murder and annihilation in Iraq? Well, that's what's the US does when it invades; it destroys/disrupt/paralyses all infrastructures and kill everything getting in the way, so then they can roll in like on a fucking highway And that's not what the russians do here For the invasion alone, in iraq, it was 10 to 20000 casualties, roughly, conservative estimate, on iraqi side, for civilians alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Iraqi_invasion_casualties Franks reportedly estimated soon after the invasion that there had been 30,000 Iraqi casualties as of April 9, 2003.[82] That number comes from the transcript of an October 2003 interview of U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld with journalist Bob Woodward. They were discussing a number reported by The Washington Post.[when?] But neither could remember the number clearly, nor whether it was just for deaths, or both deaths and wounded. A May 28, 2003, Guardian article reported that "Extrapolating from the death-rates of between 3% and 10% found in the units around Baghdad, one reaches a toll of between 13,500 and 45,000 dead among troops and paramilitaries."[83] An October 20, 2003, study by the Project on Defense Alternatives at Commonwealth Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, estimated that for March 19, 2003, to April 30, 2003, the "probable death of approximately 11,000 to 15,000 Iraqis, including approximately 3,200 to 4,300 civilian noncombatants."[84][85] The Iraq Body Count project (IBC) documented a higher number of civilian deaths up to the end of the major combat phase (May 1, 2003). In a 2005 report,[86] using updated information, **the IBC reported that 7,299 civilians are documented to have been killed, primarily by U.S. air and ground forces. There were 17,338 civilian injuries inflicted up to May 1, 2003. The IBC says its figures are probably underestimates because: "many deaths will probably go unreported or unrecorded by officials and media."[19]** ... We're not there yet... Iraqi didn't get a choice like ukrainians do, they had to take the war machine full frontal on day1