Why does the EU seem not even interested in negotiating with russia?

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There has been many speculations surrounding why Putin is doing what he is doing and most of them are founded on modern problems like gas and NATO. But there is one thing that has never changed and never will change:

the only way to invade Russia from the west is through Ukraine(and the baltic states, but the alliance with Belarus solves the issue on that front). The terrain is shaped like a funnel that is narrow in the west and wide open once you enter Russia. It is impossible to defend Russia if the narrow part is not under direct or indirect control by Russia. If it's controlled by NATO they are at the mercy of a people which they have has numerous conflicts with since the dawn of time - the Germans, the french, the Anglos etc. Today all of these are united under NATO and even if NATO is an defensive alliance it is Putins job to assume and prepare for the worst. NATO can always decide to become hostile or aggressive at some point, who knows what the future brings.

This is also the reason why Crimea is important + the naval base ans access to the Black sea. I don't for a second believe Putin gives a fuck about the ethnic Russians that make up the majority of the population Crimea and the Donbas region, since he is letting Asians immigrate to Russia en masse and have done everything to quell Russian nationalists, he is just using it as an excuse to play a geopolitical game which is securing Russias existence and his own power base.

Now that you know the above take this next tidbit into account: The U.S. have done in Ukraine what they have done in latin america and puts an anti-russian puppet as replacement for an elected pro-russian leader, Putins got to wonder what's up with that. And when the russians in Donbas an Crimea holds an referendum to cut ties with Ukraine and then gets shelled for 8 years without the west doing anything or the press writing anything about it it makes him wonder what's coming next.

> Ukraine is indeed not that important for US

If Ukraine is not important to the U.S. then why the fuck did the instigate a coup that started all this mess in 2014?

http://soviethistory.msu.edu/1991-2/the-end-of-the-soviet-union/the-end-of-the-soviet-union-texts/minsk-agreement/ https://truthout.org/articles/the-ukraine-mess-that-nuland-made/ https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/06/03/how-why-us-government-perpetrated-2014-coup-ukraine/ https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-major-instigator-ukraine-conflict/5771863 https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/02/23/the-day-russias-patience-ran-out/#more-261188

The second sentence in this article explain the problem and also explains U.S. monetary interests. https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/02/25/the-real-history-behind-ukraine-putin-the-eu-gas-donbass/

I don't mean to be rude, but you don't know enough about the history and geography of Europe to understand this mess and act quite naive when it comes to U.S. involvement and interests.

I copied my comment from another forum to post it here. There has been many speculations surrounding why Putin is doing what he is doing and most of them are founded on modern problems like gas and NATO. But there is one thing that has never changed and never will change: the only way to invade Russia from the west is through Ukraine(and the baltic states, but the alliance with Belarus solves the issue on that front). The terrain is shaped like a funnel that is narrow in the west and wide open once you enter Russia. It is impossible to defend Russia if the narrow part is not under direct or indirect control by Russia. If it's controlled by NATO they are at the mercy of a people which they have has numerous conflicts with since the dawn of time - the Germans, the french, the Anglos etc. Today all of these are united under NATO and even if NATO is an defensive alliance it is Putins job to assume and prepare for the worst. NATO can always decide to become hostile or aggressive at some point, who knows what the future brings. This is also the reason why Crimea is important + the naval base ans access to the Black sea. I don't for a second believe Putin gives a fuck about the ethnic Russians that make up the majority of the population Crimea and the Donbas region, since he is letting Asians immigrate to Russia en masse and have done everything to quell Russian nationalists, he is just using it as an excuse to play a geopolitical game which is securing Russias existence and his own power base. Now that you know the above take this next tidbit into account: The U.S. have done in Ukraine what they have done in latin america and puts an anti-russian puppet as replacement for an elected pro-russian leader, Putins got to wonder what's up with that. And when the russians in Donbas an Crimea holds an referendum to cut ties with Ukraine and then gets shelled for 8 years without the west doing anything or the press writing anything about it it makes him wonder what's coming next. >> Ukraine is indeed not that important for US If Ukraine is not important to the U.S. then why the fuck did the instigate a coup that started all this mess in 2014? http://soviethistory.msu.edu/1991-2/the-end-of-the-soviet-union/the-end-of-the-soviet-union-texts/minsk-agreement/ https://truthout.org/articles/the-ukraine-mess-that-nuland-made/ https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/06/03/how-why-us-government-perpetrated-2014-coup-ukraine/ https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-major-instigator-ukraine-conflict/5771863 https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/02/23/the-day-russias-patience-ran-out/#more-261188 The second sentence in this article explain the problem and also explains U.S. monetary interests. https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/02/25/the-real-history-behind-ukraine-putin-the-eu-gas-donbass/ I don't mean to be rude, but you don't know enough about the history and geography of Europe to understand this mess and act quite naive when it comes to U.S. involvement and interests.

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