>>hutterite Is that how you spell it? I always just refer to them as 'the hoots'. I've got a colony of them near where I live and it's pretty astonishing to see how well White collectivism has worked for them. Nicest farm equipment of almost anyone in the area, and I live around some very big time farming families. I don't think I would be able to handle their 'social norms', but perhaps those are a big part of why their society works as well as it does. I wish more people could see the benefits of their type of communal living.