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Want to start a foundation or NGO or group for developing techniques to perform de-programming.

Many people thinks it's permanent. I don't think it is. I think the "ex-soviet-spy" meme was spread around with the intention of making us think brainwashing isn't undoable. I think that was the specific intention. That was the real payload of that meme all along.

But if that were the case then these immortal words wouldn't exist: We lose our minds collectively, and only regain our sanity one at a time.

I think it was considered permanent because the weapons of psychological warfare and demoralization were so much further advanced than the defenses against it (at the time).

But we've seen people wake up. We've seen people red-pilled or whatever the hell people want to call it these days.

And that means not only is demoralization and brainwashing NOT permanent, but that there must be specific techniques to undo it.

And the question is, if it can be undone individually, why not to entire groups of people or even nations?

Whats stopping us from developing methods and techniques for breaking the spell entirely?

I think it can be done. I know it can.

If you think the same, and want to help, post here or PM me. This is an online group so you can maintain your anonymity. Discussions will be about techniques and methodologies of information dispersal and deprogramming, designing experiments, and gathering data on efficacy in the wild.

This is not a post calling for any real-world organization, weapons, militia, or anything of that nature.

edit: Not sure if this is the correct sub for this

Want to start a foundation or NGO or group for developing techniques to perform de-programming. Many people thinks it's permanent. I don't think it is. I think the "ex-soviet-spy" meme was spread around with the intention of making us think brainwashing isn't undoable. I think that was the specific intention. That was the real payload of that meme all along. But if that were the case then these immortal words wouldn't exist: *We lose our minds collectively, and only regain our sanity one at a time.* I think it was considered permanent because the *weapons* of psychological warfare and demoralization were *so much further advanced* than the defenses against it (at the time). But we've seen people wake up. We've seen people red-pilled or whatever the hell people want to call it these days. And that means not only is demoralization and brainwashing NOT permanent, but that there must be specific techniques to undo it. And the question is, if it can be undone individually, why not to entire groups of people or even nations? Whats stopping us from developing methods and techniques for breaking the spell entirely? I think it can be done. I know it can. If you think the same, and want to help, post here or PM me. This is an online group so you can maintain your anonymity. Discussions will be about techniques and methodologies of information dispersal and deprogramming, designing experiments, and gathering data on efficacy in the wild. This is not a post calling for any real-world organization, weapons, militia, or anything of that nature. edit: Not sure if this is the correct sub for this @AOU

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[–] • 3 pts

Good post, I hope this sees some movement.

The key to everything is education, knowledge, self-awareness, and the ability to scientifically examine and categorize information. Not only at the individual level, but at the group level. A vast majority of people are too scared to think about the big picture as they simply exist in their little worlds. They only consider what they see on MSM as reality and everything else possible as conspiracy. Deprogramming the NPCs will take time and needs to be done layer by layer with their full consent and their own want to understand the real world.

IMO the best way to deprogram is to make NPCs want to be deprogrammed. Meaning the reward for understanding truth is better than their reality of lies. Feeding ideas of self-improvement and motivation for their life goals and future is a way to get them thinking and start to live empowering lives of opportunity and not fear.

I would start with those closest to you, your family and friends. You will have drop redpills and truth slowly enough for them to consume and they have to be validated through their own observations. Once they realize your redpills have some validity they will start to actually deprogram themselves. I would recommend studying Social Intelligence, Emotional Intelligence and learn how to debate effectively in a non-threatening way. One term I really like is 'Social Ju Jitsu, where you are able to turn negative energy into positive energy.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Deprogramming the NPCs will take time, and at the individual level

These are the exact parameters we want to tune, so it becomes a funnel, where we're no longer working at the individual layer, spending huge resources to deprogram people slowly over time.

What we want is techniques and methods that are

  1. fast
  2. cheap
  3. easily replicable by competent people
  4. if not simple, at least straight forward
  5. self-replicating if possible
  6. self-reinforcing
  7. affect multiple people instead of the existing serial process.

It's about scale and turn-over time.

IMO the best way to deprogram is to make NPCs want to be deprogrammed.

I am definitely interested in hearing more of your thoughts on this. Absolutely please do elaborate if or when you get more time.

What you're saying is curiosity and the desire to change are two powerful motivators?

You will have drop redpills and truth slowly enough for them to consume and they have to be validated through their own observations.

This is the old model. What I'm after is a new model.

For example people were talking about informing others and redpilling a while back, and I had a realization: The reason cognitive dissonance fails so often as a mechanism, is because theres a new defense layer built on top of that:

The sloganeering reflex. (or whatever you'd like to call it).

Think "diversity is our strength!"

"trust the science, bigot!"

Etc.

Once I realized that, it became obvious we weren't having more cogdis episodes when people were exposed to new information, because this secondary layer was blocking that function.

And by targeting and breaking that layer, we can get back to information having a useful effect on people.

But this is what I'm talking about: the old models don't work. Aren't fast enough. Aren't efficient.

And I don't think the limits that exist now ("must be slow", "must be one on one", "must be done in layers") are actual limits, but rather a lack of innovation on understanding, techniques, and methodology.

[–] • 0 pt

To be frank, ignorance is bliss, the most stressful part of my life thus far was waking up. You have to be upfront that their lives will be uprooted and their old selves virtually die.