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I really need some help. I just got out of rehab and have relapsed hard and then again every day since then (I’m an alcoholic meth addict). Ended up in the hospital a couple days ago. The rehab taught me nothing except Jewish “coping skills” like Buddhism and the 12 steps. I just thought I’d ask recovered addicts with a similar thought process as me what they did to get over this shit.

I really need some help. I just got out of rehab and have relapsed hard and then again every day since then (I’m an alcoholic meth addict). Ended up in the hospital a couple days ago. The rehab taught me nothing except Jewish “coping skills” like Buddhism and the 12 steps. I just thought I’d ask recovered addicts with a similar thought process as me what they did to get over this shit.

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[–] • 11 pts (edited )

Nothing gonna change until you stop looking for something to change you. Being ok with being sober. Realizing nothings gonna make it "better". Life sucks sometimes. If you stop seeking an external fix or escape and learn to be ok with who you are in a couple of years you realize it isn't that bad. I've done every drug in the world half don't even have names. It sucks to be sober until it is awesome to be sober. There is no quick fix. There is no easy way out. That's the type of weak willed thinking that gets people onto the drugs and relapsing. Every day you just have to not do drugs for one day. It's the only way. Deal with it sucking until it doesn't.

Tl:Dr stop being an entitled lil bitch and don't do drugs for one day, every day. You don't need a reason.

[–] • 1 pt

That is true. I know I’m going to have to do this on my own willpower but everyone else in “recovery” says it’s a “disease” (which I call a substance you enjoy, a lack of self-control, and perhaps a life you’re unhappy with) and that attending AA/NA meetings daily will suddenly fix the problem. Thanks for telling it like it is man

[–] [deleted] • 7 pts

Also remove yourself from having access to the substances. If that means you cut out friends, do it, family? do it... whatever it takes do not make access to the substances easy. And don't hang around places or people that have or can get you easy access to it. It's hard, but you need to get a grip first then deal with those people later. You can do this and you will. I have so can you. I know it is in you to succeed past this.

[–] • 3 pts

Support can help. Talking to people can help. You don't have to do it alone, but the choice is yours and yours alone. Any excusatory bullshit "oh its a disease it's not my fault whaaaahhh" is just people making justifications for their actions of addiction or enablement. It is a choice. Choose wisely. You can do it.

[–] • 2 pts

Cancer is a disease. Getting crunk is a choice.

[–] • 1 pt

The disease attitude is somewhat bullshit imo. The propensity is a character trait which is mediated both by genetics. You can't get rid of that. The cycle of abuse of your body is a choice. You know a lot of people choose to drink and get high every day, and they don't consider themselves addicts because they aren't trying to quit. They like it. They may not have a disease.

[–] • 0 pt

It's not a disease. You're just choosing a quick bandaid for your psychological trauma. It's like taking codeine because dental work on a rotten tooth is too much work.

[–] • 5 pts

7 years a drunk. You have to find something bigger than your desire to drink and meth. Sounds stupid but that's how I pulled myself out of the bottle. Then you need a good circle to support you the first few years. It sucks but you can do it, it's hard work but when you make it though you'll see that it was all worth the effort.

I lost a really close friend to heroin just after Thanksgiving. I helped him through 3 rehabs and a near death OD. He didn't want to get sober. Told me that a few days before he died that he couldn't see away out. I wish I would have locked him in my room and forced him sober but he would have been back to the H the second hi let him out.

RIP Binkley you will be missed.

Do better or die. Two choices.

And it will never happen fast.

[–] • 2 pts

I’m sorry for your loss man. I understand going back as soon as you can, I think that’s how my family and friends feel about me and it’s fucking me up. Thanks for your response

[–] • 4 pts

I got off cigarettes which was hard and booze because I couldn't quit smoking unless I quit drinking alcohol. I quit fentanyl because I will never go through them withdrawals again that was a heavy experience. I just fuck around with kratom and I will also stop that eventually and I still fuck with weed but I'm only going to blaze when my day is over for now on. How did I quit cigarettes? Easy I scared myself and same reason I won't do fentanyl ever again especially since nobody lives with me so if I od this beautiful fucked up life is over. I am constantly working on improving myself. IDK what to say you just have to want and need to quit inside your mind. Plus my place is easier to keep clean and organized as well now.

[–] • 2 pts

That’s what I’ve suspected (that you have to want it for yourself). My rehab was court-ordered but I may be going back on my own volition, especially since my deductible is already paid off for the year. Thanks 👍

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

Distractions (staying distracted) always helped me the most (but I wasn't a 'major' addict just five or six Vicodin a day) but this works only after you've decided once and for all that it's worth it. Living real life is the best way.

Problems are gonna come as it is anyway (sickness, deaths of loved ones, financial), better to deal with them without having one hand tied behind your back, and ultimately death is coming - not something you want to deal with in a less than optimal state of mind if you have a choice.

[–] • 1 pt

Yeah distractions definitely help, I was sober for about a week after rehab by working overtime, working out, working out, and playing video games. But I guess I didn’t make the decision it was worth living for. Appreciate your response man

[–] • 1 pt

It's not easy, but you can do it and it's so worth it. Hang in there.

[–] • 2 pts

spend time in nature. get out of your own head. some people find success by moving somewhere new. some have had success with deep introspection or a guided mushroom experience. the point is to have a fresh start and strong conviction for whatever path you decide to take.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Dust yourself off and get back on that cart... First off, I don't drink any alcohol and from experience the first time I quit cigs... I started again after a few drinks... Avoid alcohol and rebuke the temptations, it lowers willpower/inhibitions, and I can guarantee you will relapse sooner or later... Replace with different drink...

I got off nicotine recently... First, I weaned myself off while I had to change my mindset and thought long and hard to try and figure out one pro but all I could list are cons and was tired of the "addictive feelings"... The human spirit bolstered by prayer is stronger than any addiction you can beat this but possibly not alone...

Whenever I had the temptations I did the following, I rebuked them, remembered why I wanted to get off them in the first place e.g. to prove that I was master over my body not cig's, gathered willpower or prayed for more willpower...

What I find helps make this easier, is trade a bad habit for a good habit... refining e.g. if you keep forgetting to do something, be mindful and continue doing it till it is a habit...

[–] • 1 pt

You have to heal your pain and trauma before you'll be able to live without the painkiller/coping mechanism.

You can heal without a therapist, but if you can find a good one, I would strongly encourage you to see someone. Yes, most of them are feminist pussy soylatte folks, but some are legitimate, solid people who don't buy into the woke BS.

Best of luck, man.

[–] • 1 pt

I am a sober alcoholic, 7 years without a drink. The only thing that works is AA. Get a sponsor, work the steps. I tried everything else, most of us do. AA has a Christian lineage back through the Oxford group, there is nothing Jewish about it. I’m available to talk if you want to.

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