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Is it really a fossil fuel or is it man-made? do we have a finite resource on earth or not? how is there so much? if extracted from underground, how is such a colossal amount being extracted from the beneath the earth with little immediate and major consequences to the environment?

how is there so much?!

Is it really a fossil fuel or is it man-made? do we have a finite resource on earth or not? how is there so much? if extracted from underground, how is such a colossal amount being extracted from the beneath the earth with little immediate and major consequences to the environment? how is there so much?!

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[–] 6 pts

Is it really a fossil fuel or is it man-made? do we have a finite resource on earth or not? how is there so much?

Oil is abiotic. Just the idea of that many animals all dying at specific geological epochs to give you identifiable deposits is assinine.

It isn't man made. It isn't fossil fuel. It's a substance that forms as a result of time and pressure in certain geological formations. Those formations are being created all the time, so more oil is being created all the time. There may be an argument that consumption can outrun production, but that's true of all resources. The same way sand, or granite, or obsidian form under certain conditions, so do hydrocarbons.

Geologic engineers are hilarious to talk to. They will still parrot the "fossil fuels" line, but all of the methods they use to actually find oil are based on abiotic principles. Some are very, very careful to never say "fossil fuels" and will only refer to hydrocarbons.

if extracted from underground, how is such a colossal amount being extracted from the beneath the earth with little immediate and major consequences to the environment?

Because the amount of hydrocarbon in any location isn't structural to the formation, and isn't a huge amount of the mass. It's like water in a damp sponge. If you squeeze the sponge, you get water out. The sponge doesn't get destroyed by this. It's why fracking has become such an important tech -- it allows you to make the formation more "spongy" so that the oil can be extracted from what was previously solid rock. There's still thousands of feet of solid rock above it, and miles of solid rock below it, and all around it.

how is there so much?!

Because it is abiotic and therefore being created literally everywhere underground. We are only extracting the deposits that are a depths that we have the (current) technology to reach. It's everywhere, just a different depths.

[–] 3 pts

Good comment.

Just want to add, there is now more known oil reserves than there has been at any other point in history.

[–] 2 pts

Very interesting take. I never really considered the sponge concept of where oil comes from but it makes sense. Abiotic principles also make a lot of sense after doing some quick five-minute research of what it is. Oil is like groundwater, just a different geological formation. So doesn't this technically make oil organic since it is partly formed of carbon? The "fuel will run out" argument seems pretty strong at the rate at which we're consuming it for almost everything. Nature must surely take a long ass time to pressurize rock and we're sucking at it like it's a coca-cola in the cinema.

[–] 0 pt

Having carbon in it makes it as organic as a diamond.

[–] 0 pt

What is interesting about this is the organic method of binding hydrogen to carbon also binds in half that amount in oxygen.

Carbohydrates.

But fuel is a hydrocarbon. No oxygen. Now I know that oxygen reacts and reduces to just about anything. E. g rust. By carbohydrates have already strongly bound the oxygen.

So if fuel derives organically where did the oxygen go?

I'll have to investigate.