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(archive: https://archive.md/vVCI3)

Metric
Imperial

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[–] • 9 pts

Metric is for simple folk like Indians, Africans and the French.

[–] [deleted] • 7 pts

Yeah nothing is more simple than constantly doing conversion for EVERYTHING.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

In real life you have to convert everything.

our understanding of the universe is based on converting reality into simpler concepts.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

Imperial adds unnecessary conversions. Multiplying and dividing should be simple, but every such calculation with imperial requires mixed fractions --> conversion.

Also, you switched meanings of "conversion" in your second sentence. If you can't make a point, just say so; don't play word games.

[–] • 2 pts

This is what confuses many. Physics doesn't describe the universe. It describes our conceptualized model of the universe. It is rather more abstract than most are led to believe.

[–] • 0 pt

We're not niggers who keep doing the same stupid thing when there is an easier way. This is the essence of being White. Stop being a nigger and use metric.

[–] • 0 pt

Once you have them memorized it's no big deal.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

them

LOL. Who memorized a seventh of a mile, in inches?

[–] • 5 pts (edited )

Metric is for simple folk like Indians, Africans and the French.

Proceeds by using feet, cables, stones, and knots, as unit of measurement... Can't measure the speed of light accurately.... Can't handle a single foreign language... Is likely circumcised while not even being a jew or a muslim... https://waitbutwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Circumcision-FEATURE.png

[–] • 1 pt

How are things in Gambia this time of year?

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

I think gambia still hasn't an army run by a tranny and a bunch of woke turds ready to pass a phone call to china in case the US would attack them

At least they didn't parade in high heels last time I checked

[–] • 5 pts

This should tell you all you need to know about imperial and who came up with it.

Average human body temperature is 98.6 degrees. freezing temperature is 32 degrees.

What do you get when subtract 32 from 98.6?

66.6

Now, who can you think of that loves the number 6, and better yet 3 of them?

[–] • 7 pts

Fahrenheit is da DEBIL!

[–] • 3 pts

Momma says dat Jews is so onerary because they got all dat hair and non on dey head

[–] [deleted] • 6 pts

It's not a matter of superior. Metric is logic, imperial is not. As simple as it gets.

[–] • 10 pts

Metric is for people who don't actually do things. The measurements have no basis in the natural world except obscure concepts like the (incorrect) size of the earth, while imperial measurements are based on useful amounts. More importantly, imperial measurements are measured in ways to allow them to divide cleanly.

You have a gallon. You half it. Now you have 2 quarts (or 4 pints.) You half it two more times, now you have a cup. There are 16 ounces in that cup, giving you four more clean divisions. (1/2, 1/4. 1/8, 1/16)

Also, base 12 and base 16 are way easier to deal with as binary. Your days of "dur the math is easier" are on the way out as more things become binary.

If you are actually working with real things, Imperial is superior. If you are doing abstract math about things that you aren't going to touch, then sure, simple-minded metric is the way to go.

[–] • 8 pts (edited )

Metric is for people who don't actually do things.

Who used to do things, past tense

>The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant that is important in many areas of physics. Its exact value is defined as 299792458 metres per second (approximately 300000 km/s or 186000 mi/s).[Note 3] It is exact because, by international agreement, a metre is defined as the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1⁄299792458 second.[Note 4][3] According to special relativity, c is the upper limit for the speed at which conventional matter, energy or any signal carrying information can travel through space. A light-year is a distance unit, defined as the distance travelled by light in one Julian year. The speed of light is sometimes referred to as lightspeed, especially in science fiction. ... >The speed of light in imperial units and US units is based on an inch of exactly 2.54 cm... is approximately 186282 miles, 698 yards, 2 feet, and 5 inches per second.

Your shit's lame and outdated end of story. The only reason the US still uses it is because it's a former british colony

https://zippyfacts.com/who-invented-the-yard-how-did-the-unit-of-measurement-originate-and-why-is-the-yard-and-metre-different/

>In the twelfth century, Henry I of England decreed that a yard would be the distance from his nose to the thumb of his outstretched arm.

lol

...

This, is order

1 centimeter = 10 millimeters 1 decimeter = 10 centimeters 1 meter = 10 decimeters 1 dekameter = 10 meters 1 hectometer = 10 dekameters 1 kilometer = 10 hectometers

This, is a glorified mess

1 foot = 12 inches 1 yard = 3 feet 1 chain = 22 yards 1 furlong = 10 chains 1 mile = 8 furlongs 1 league = 3 miles

Clown world units, literally

https://pic8.co/sh/vXHuJC.png

And it gets better:

The British Imperial fluid ounce is equal to 28.413 milliliters, while in the U.S. Customary System it is equivalent to 29.573 ml.

A pint in the British Imperial System is 568.261 milliliters (or 20 fluid ounces), while a U.S. pint is just 473.176 ml (or 16 fluid ounces).

A British Imperial quart is equal to 1.13 liters (or 40 fluid ounces), whereas a quart in the U.S. Customary System is 0.94 l (or 32 fluid ounces).

A gallon in the British Imperial System is equal is 4.54 liters (or 160 fluid ounces) while a U.S. gallon is equal to 3.78 liters (or 128 fluid ounces).

...

Yes, everything is fake in america, even the imperial system

Welcome to clownworld

[–] • 1 pt

Actually, it was all based roughly on available middle ages measuring units for markets. Like you'd use your hands to measure the height of a horse rather than "feet" but you'd "measure" a distance with the length of feet to get an approximate measurement.

[–] • 0 pt

Imagine if we measured time like the metric system: 1 seconds in 1 Earth rotation, 10 deci-seconds in a second, 10 centi-seconds in a deci-second, 10 milli-seconds in a centi-second.

Why not do that?

Metric is based on 1 meter, which is based on 1 second of a half pendulum swing. A second is based on 1⁄86400 of a day. There are 60 seconds to 1 minute, 60 min to 1 hour, 24 hours in a day. We should change that mess to a better order.

Why stop there, let's change a circle from 360 degrees to 1 degree in a circle and divide it into tens.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

I work in a highly technical field; everything is complicated unnecessarily by imperial.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Are you sure? Because that picman guy said that peOpLe who dO tHingS use imperial exclusively!

Not sure why this bothers me so much... it's just the worst argumentation.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

Apparently you don't actually do things.

You have a teaspoon. How to make a 16x (5 TBP + 1 tsp, which is 1/4 C + 1 TBSP + 1 tsp) batch or 100x (you can do the math) batch?

1mL water weighs 1g. The definition of a degree C is equally intuitive. What does imperial have?

more things become binary

Nah. You're telling me that things decided to completely skip decimal (i.e. metric) and move to binary? That's retarded.

[–] • 0 pt

You have a teaspoon. How to make a 16x (5 TBP + 1 tsp, which is 1/4 C + 1 TBSP + 1 tsp) batch or 100x (you can do the math) batch?

6 tsp in an ounce. You honestly don't need more precision than that. 2 2/3 oz for 16x, a pint for 100x.

Nah. You're telling me that things decided to completely skip decimal (i.e. metric) and move to binary? That's retarded.

You're advocating a system that hasn't caught on in 200 years and I'm the retarded one?

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

It's not a matter of superior. Metric is logic, imperial is not. As simple as it gets.

So is communism, right?

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

Communism is an ideology. It has nothing to do with logic. Only centrism is based on logic.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Communism is an ideology. It has nothing to do with logic

Then, you misunderstand what a racket is.

There is a very logical reason for communism. It centralizes power in the hands of a few. If you're trying to dominate a populace, communism is extreemely logical.

[–] • 1 pt

Unless the crazies keep moving the center.

[–] • 2 pts

Metric isn't logical anymore or less than any other unit of measure. There is nothing more inherently logical about units of ten versus any other. What is logical, is a standard. Which we largely had with empirial measure before metric.

For example, rule of thumb is both logical and inherently convenient; albeit inaccurate. It most certainly is not units of ten and is tethered to human anatomy. But as humans are the only consumers, that is in fact logical.

Don't get me wrong, metric vs imperial doesn't keep me up at night. But imperial does provide an ancient connection to our past. A legacy. Metric provides a new center for new priests, built upon lies.

[–] • 3 pts

Imperial is a proportion based measuring system, it's better for cooking as you can eye ratios pretty quickly and it's almost as good as having a scale to measure out weight.

[–] • 2 pts

Proof there are immaculate things that reach beyond logic. This is why English language is also the best, it is not ruled by logic. Allowing the mind to fall into perfectly regimented systems of measurement and relation is the slow death of the immaculate spark of beauty and creativity.

[–] • 4 pts

I'm really worried by the amount of imperial votes.

[–] • 1 pt

I'm really worried by the amount of imperial votes.

In the Galactic Senate, votes mean nothing, only the unlimited power of a Deathstar

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

No obligatory "Fuck You!" Option

POWER ADMIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[–] • 2 pts

You know this is disabled for level 30+ :)

[–] • 3 pts

Imperial is more practical. Try dividing hand measurements in metric. You can only halve, fifth, or tenth it. Universally. Baking, carpentry, whatever, imperial is easier and more versatile.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Carpentry is definitely a little weird in metric. In imperial, things tend to be built in nice, round numbers. In metric, a lot of the standard lengths and heights seem to have been picked at random. And having to make a cut at tenths of a millimeter is pretty hairy.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

What's half a tablespoon?

Oh, we're using decimals now (1.5 tsp)? Then the imbecilic limitation to only "halve, fifth, or tenth" measurements is revealed for what it is. I can divide any number by any other (nonzero) number. Using imperial introduces a conversion from mixed number to "topheavy" fraction before division.

Get with the times.

[–] • 1 pt

12: 2, 3, 4, 6 16: 2, 4, 8 : 21, 22, 23, 24

teaspoon is 5mL, Tablespoon 15mL

cup 8oz, pint 16, quart 32, half gallon 64

These are useful for relative human portions. It's practical, not scientific. Exact measurements aren't necessary for general purpose cooking. That's the point.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

THAT is the point!? Yikes.

Also, baking can be very precise. I bake by weight, metric only. Why complicate things?

[–] • 3 pts

Metric. Simple, effective.

[–] • 2 pts

Depends on what you're measuring. I rather measure angles in imperial than metric. 1 inch is roughly equal to 1 degree of rotation.

[–] • 0 pt

1 inch is roughly equal to 1 degree of rotation.

no

[–] • 1 pt

yes

[–] • 0 pt

the earth rotates 360 degrees every day, yet it has moved more than 360 inches... these are unrelated units of measurement, one is angular, one is linear

[–] • 2 pts

Imperial is better for everyday use, it was designed around the human. 1 foot is about the size of a foot. Inches are about the size of a digit section. A yard is about the size of a stride. A mile is about a 1000 paces.

Fahrenheit units are great for most temperature ranges, 0 you are very cold and 100 you are very hot. With celsius 0 you are kinda cold, 100 you never see it.

For sketchy communications it is easy to mix up millimeters, centimeters, kilometers with meters. if the comms gives out. There is no confusion of saying feet, yard, or mile, the words sound different.

Screw the change to metric, I see this as a ploy to really knock the US identity. You can go ahead and use it in a lab, but out here when you have no measurement device, imperial is best.

[–] • 1 pt

Screw the change to metric, I see this as a ploy to really knock the US identity.

That's pretty much my view. I see zero practical daily limitations with imperial. If someone wants to use metric for research purposes or calibration who give a shiit. It has some advantages. But to try to force us to abandon traditional cultural rules of measure that present no inherent problems? No way.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Fahrenheit units are great for most temperature ranges, 0 you are very cold and 100 you are very hot. With celsius 0 you are kinda cold, 100 you never see it.

Fahrenheit is pointless?

0 degC is ice, so don't brake hard 100 degC is boiling water at sea level

these have the same real world relevancy as feet and inches, feeling hot or cold is relative, if we had 0 or 100 degF in the UK, everyone would take a day off work, we'd invent a "UK Fahrenheit" range of 50 to 77, so 22 degrees of precision

[–] • 0 pt

I was referring to the US.

I didn't say it was pointless, but how many times has the weather given us 100C?

[–] • 0 pt

You aren't always relating temperature to the weather, I already know when I'm likely to be hot or cold, but 0degC is an important enough figure to warrant a warning light on the dashboard

[–] • 1 pt

Funfact:

1 cubic meter of water = 10 kg

[–] • 3 pts

A cubic meter of water has a mass of 1000 kg, or one ton.

[–] • 1 pt

Cough I totally meant that, I just miss-hit the 0 key a couple times...

[–] • 0 pt

That's the problem with metric. You can easily miss a 0.

[–] • 1 pt

I like imperial only because I’ve used it my whole life, and daily as a carpenter. But I have to admit metric is far superior in its simplicity

[–] • 6 pts

I figured as a carpenter you would understand by base12 is superior to base10 for carpentry.

Divide by half: 6 vs 5. Meh.

Divide by quarters: 3 vs 2.5. Imperial wins.

Divide by thirds. 4 vs 3.33333333333333333333... Imperial is the clear winner.

The only factors of 10 are 1, 2, 5, and 10. The factors of 12 are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12. Equal divisions is clearly superior on base12. (It's not even harder to count on your fingers, since you have a palm that all those fingers and thumbs are attached to. 8 fingers+2 thumbgs+2 palms = 12.)

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

I agree with the base 12 part of it regarding the amount of inches into feet. But it gets complex when it is broken down into 12 inches, and then inches is broken down into 16ths. , Both of those numbers are cleanly divisible by four (quarter), but when it comes time to scale your measurements, a calculator and complicated figuring is required.

192 inches is 16 feet in imperial. That’s a calculation many people cant make off the top of their head, whereas if you had the equivalent measurement to 16 ft, 4.88 m, you would know that that is 488 cm. Easy

[–] • 2 pts

9/10 times, they are simply going to round that 488 up to 500.

Which is why metric is stupidly solving a problem that doesn't exist.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Divide be thirds. 4 ...

Yes, dividing TWELVE into thirds is easy. Do you know of any other numbers besides 12 though? What a stupid argument.

counting on fingers

LOL. You are in lala land.

[–] • 1 pt

Do you know of any other numbers besides 12 though? What a stupid argument.

No. That's the point. It's not a stupid argument, it's a stupid listener.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

The only factors of 10 are 1, 2, 5, and 10. The factors of 12 are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12. Equal divisions is clearly superior on base12.

That's a good point, base 12 is more efficient in that respect. in the UK I'm kinda flicking between the two because I'm used to doing something as precise as possible

I've never thought of using the palm to count, lol

[–] • 1 pt

metric has a name for every multiple of ten so if you know the base unit you can use it anyway you want. for a meter it would go a decimeter, centimeter, millimeter. there are more but as you can see decimeter isnt really used but deci is also what is used for bels aka a decibel, this applies to all metric units so instead of memorising random conversions between a few things you know all the conversions based off of the prefix and unit

edit: didnt see the link that you posted just the poll

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