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So I had the Vid last week, bad cold whooptydooo. Last couple days I could feel my sinuses getting funky with a slight headache. Today it's a full blown sinus infection with a debilitating headache, I can't even think straight it's so painful. So I get a prescription for antibiotics and an anti-inflammatory steroid. It's transferred electronically. I drive 15min to the pharmacy and they say it's going to be another 45min.

How long does it take to put some pills from a large bottle into a small bottle and print a label? Seriously. WTF!?

Edit: Wow. Those steroids are fucking amazing. No more pressure, no more incapacitating pain. Fuck yes. That pain was my body fucking itself up. No need for that.

So I had the Vid last week, bad cold whooptydooo. Last couple days I could feel my sinuses getting funky with a slight headache. Today it's a full blown sinus infection with a debilitating headache, I can't even think straight it's so painful. So I get a prescription for antibiotics and an anti-inflammatory steroid. It's transferred electronically. I drive 15min to the pharmacy and they say it's going to be another 45min. How long does it take to put some pills from a large bottle into a small bottle and print a label? Seriously. WTF!? Edit: Wow. Those steroids are fucking amazing. No more pressure, no more incapacitating pain. Fuck yes. That pain was my body fucking itself up. No need for that.

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[–] 8 pts

Wife is a Pharmacist (clinical/hospital, not retail). It takes a long time because retail pharmacies intentionally short staff for the workload. Hire 1 to do what should really be done by 2. It takes time to do the job correctly (it's not counting, most pharmacies have robots do that), it's all the legal paperwork, drug interactions, calls to clarify doctors orders/get them to correct a fucked up order and redundancy checks to try and make sure there isn't a bad interaction. Given that Pharmacy is a "one strike and you no long can make money this way" job, and it's 6 years with 4 of those at "Med school prices" degree... the people responsible will work at a pace that ensures they can still make money the next day, and the next week, and the next year.

But this is all secondary to the main problem, western medicine. I'm dealing with this for a dog right now (nasty, pussy, draining eye), 3rd Vet identified the root cause and prescribed pills and drops to TREAT THE EFFECTS, but don't give a rats ass about the cause. That's fine if we're talking about a broken bone, not fine if we're talking about a "sickness" where they simply want you to take a pill/drop 3 times a day for the rest of your life. So you have a system of "this will cure that" prescriptions, but the drugs have side effects that then get MORE drugs thrown at them and a Pharmacy can be filling 6~30 different meds for one person. Consider that you have most people in this country on this merry-go-round and that's a fuckton of drugs that have to be funneled through one person at any given retail location. They get techs to help (2 or 3 depending on the state), but generally there's more work to do than time to do it in a retail setting.

Clinical is different, but pays less and is more challenging. Not that any of it pays great... my wife had just a touch over $100k in school loans when she graduated several decades ago, probably getting on towards $300k for the same now. Her first job paid $35k, her Highest paid job was $87k in an urban hellhole, this years taxes look to be under $25k and that's with ZERO benefits (we're paying our own insurance, our own retirement, no sick days, no vacation days, nothing but an hourly wage). Granted, she works 40 hours every 14 days, but that's still not very much money for someone with several decades experience and outstanding performance reviews...

Anyway, doesn't take too long to fill 1 or 2 drug prescriptions for 1 person ~ maybe 5-ish minutes from start to finish. You're just in line behind 30 other people, a few phone calls to verify a doctors written order (wrong dosing), and having to stop work every 5 minutes when some waste of space walks in and bitches about how long it takes.

[–] 1 pt

For the record I didn't waste their time.

"I'll be another 45min."

"Oh, OK."

And then I made this post while I was waiting.

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[–] 0 pt

A very astute analysis. Another reason I didn't see was that opiates and other painkillers are usually in some sort of time delay safe, to minimize burglaries.

[–] 4 pts

They have to verify to make sure you aren't taking anything that causes an interaction that might kill you. For you it probably isn't too bad but most of their customers are probably old and on a bunch of different meds.

[–] 3 pts

Yeah your doctor is supposed to do this too but no one actually does. The amount of people on multiple drugs that have serious interactions is astounding. So many people on pharma speed balls (Adderall, pain pills) for their chronic pain and muh adhd. Lot of people drinking while they take benzos cuz their doctors tell them it’s fine even though it can make you stop breathing and cause serious brain damage. I knew a guy once that was on 2mg xanax and fentanyl patches every day. That shit can make you stop breathing. Also people on antidepressants and cough meds at the same time. can cause serotonin syndrome.

[–] 0 pt

There is a lot of that going on, but I'm sure pharmacists at big chain pharmacies have to perform some sort of check in the computer system, however sloppy or half-assed they click through it. So instead of 30 seconds of counting pills there's an additional 5 minutes of fucking around with computers too.

[–] 3 pts

I recently had two doctors prescribe similar and conflicting steroids for pnuemonia. It was caught by the pharmacist and would have been bad bad news had I taken both.

They can take their time as far as I'm concerned.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Somebody is making a lot of money off of this. It's not you. But I hope we get to a point where our societies can ask why our doctors are nearly as dangerous as our criminals but they can't be punished for what they do to us most of the time.

[–] 0 pt

Making money treating illness is better than offering free aspirin and bandages.

[–] 2 pts

Have you seen how many drugs people take these days? They literally cant keep up at the pharmacy, they fill shit nonstop from open to close. Its insane to watch.

Also fuck antibiotics and steroids. Deal with it. Get a humidifier, take some otc garbage if you must. Antibiotics & steroids are over prescribed, doctors just paint by numbers.

[–] 2 pts

Avoiding antibiotics for a sinus infection can lead to brain abscess quite easily. Personal use of antibiotics isn't creating treatment resistant bacteria, it's animal agriculture putting them in the feed so they don't have to treat infected sores from living in close quarters.

[–] 0 pt

Thank you. Some medicines are indeed beneficial when used correctly.

[–] 0 pt

Plus it makes the animals pack on weight faster for some reason.

[–] 1 pt

This infection is acute. I definitely want them. I'm in agony. Last time I had antibiotics was like 8 years ago or so.

[–] 1 pt

Do you blow your nose alot? I ask because when you blow your nose you blow the snot into your sinuses. Suck that stuff in, spit it out or swallow it. Try to inhale like yours snoring or hockin a loogie, pull the junk out of the sinuses.

[–] 0 pt

Huh. Yeah I suppose I do blow my nose somewhat frequently. Thanks for the tip.

[–] 0 pt

Antibiotics are extremely dangerous to use and should only be used in the most extreme situations.

"Doctors" is a pretty loose term and why they now refer to them as "Providers". An actual doctor requires about 10 years of education/training, so they came up with a new type of "doctor" called a mid-level, which is a 6 year degree. Mid-levels are almost exclusively what you see at walk-in clinics and a majority of other visits to a health clinic. Here's how mid-levels work, they have you describe your problem and then they go to a website, type in your problem, and the website tells them exactly what to do and what medication to prescribe. Without that website they are dead in the water as they don't have the training to properly diagnose and prescribe medication, only an actual doctor has that ability. You'd have to be smooth brained to think that the websites those mid-levels go to aren't heavily funded by big pharma, who have basically created a simple way to push their drugs without the bother of having actual doctors get in their way.

So antibiotics were prescribed to OP because a website funded by the people who make antibiotics prescribed OP antibiotics. You'd be much better off scouring the Internet and finding people who suffer the same symptoms and learn what cures worked for them and then experiment with those cures. Save you money, time and suffering.

[–] 1 pt

Dude. I'm all for anti-mainstream health options. I only go to the doctor™ if something is seriously wrong and I need immediate remedies. Like today.

[–] 2 pts

1) they have to verify the medications won't react badly with each other

2) they have to verify the prescription is legitimate

3) they have check you aren't taking something else like from an ER visit or a prescription from another provider to ensure those meda won't react badly

4) once filled, the actual pharmacist re verifies all the above information and gets you the information about side effects

[–] 1 pt

An hour isn't shit. I had my wisdom teeth removed many years ago. From the time I was wheeled out of the office, to the time I had pain killers and antibiotics in hand was almost 5 hours. The worst pain I have ever felt in my life at the 3 hour mark. Almost 2 full hours of shut it off level of pain.

I will never, e e ever, again have surgery if I do not have pain killers in hand when I leave.

As for how long it takes to fill a prescription, I also learned from that experience, choose a pharmacy that is not busy all the fucking time.

[–] 0 pt

It wasn't really even that busy.

In highschool I got all 4 of my wisdom teeth out at once. The next day I drove 6 hours with my buddy to an Andrew WK show. I had to double my dose of Vicodin due to the volume shaking the empty sockets. Ended up nodding off in the back corner of the room for a bit.

Yup. I fell asleep at a rock show.

[–] 1 pt

Aside from all that already mentioned, the fact doctors are pushing whatever pills the pharmaceutical industry reps are pushing, is likely contributing to more people taking more dope. Add in the used car salesman hardsell hawking of COVID tests/clotshots. When I call any pharmacy, I get to listen to COVID! COVID! COVID! repeated at least twenty times before a real person picks up, then usually a hardsell from whoever answers.

I'll sign a waiver to get my 30 Damnitols in 10 minutes or less.

[–] 0 pt

In my experience, pharmacies take orders for meds they don't have in stock, or they take orders from patients whose insurance they don't accept. Both of these waste time.

[–] 0 pt

Because counting is hard

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