Thanks for the info and effort. Yes (agents, fillers, binders) that's where the controversy probably lies. >without sarcasm or condescension. >Idiot. Or was it like a coach razing to motivate a player? >Take the right supplements, balance your diet, stop jerking-off, exercise, and get the fuck outside. Idiot. I will now close all (or at least most) of my porn tabs, then go out on the back porch in my slippers and bend down and do a pushup, then meander back inside and eat a banana. Thank you for the inspiration. You are a gentleman and a scholar.