And what about the other half? Authority doesn't necessarily have to be legal or moral, it can be, that's all
>And that's what I'm getting at.
You're getting nowhere
> It's low IQ to pretend that force alone generates authority
Who has the authority when you're captured by a cartel, tied to a chair and surrounded by 10 of them, in a cave
You? Or their boss?
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You're naive and you're not very bright, obviously, so you can shove that "low IQ" up your ass, and spin...
> It's important because authority and tyranny are opposites
No, they aren't mutually exclusive, ask north koreans...
No, they aren't mutually exclusive, ask north koreans...
Fair, I misspoke. Should have said that just authority and tyranny are opposites. And I should have put "just" in the title.
>Should have said that just authority and tyranny are opposites.
Again, you are merely trying to lawyer yourself out of reality by playing scrabble here
Again, go tell that to the bunch of tyrants I mentioned earlier, and see what happens. "You have no authority!". And then they start beating the shit out of your parents right in front of you, and you can't do anything about it.
Now tell us, who has the authority here in that situation? You don't recognize their authority the beating continues... How long are you going to pretend they don't have the authority? They literally get to decide who gets to live and who dies in that room and you aren't in a position to do shit about it
Why are you pretending that I think the actual distinction between just authority and tyranny changes what tyrants do? It obviously does not and reducing the discussion down to that is idiotic. The distinction between just authority and tyranny changes the moral or rightful obligation to obey. And I still believe it is important to maintain moral consistency. That was a large part of the Declaration of Independence; outlining the moral grounds for separating from the rule of a tyrant and justifying the use of force to back it up. Obviously tyrants will still tyrannize no matter how morally justified we are.
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