If no one knows what's wrong, who's behind it or what our options are, how can we ever fix anything? You seem like you don't want more people to know about it. Your position is essentially, "why bother helping people learn if they won't do anything about it?" I think you're demoralized and don't see why more people learning how to learn again is valuable. I think you're bothered that people aren't being dragged in to the streets and murdered. What does "cleaning up the mess" look like to you if this isn't what you're saying? I think all of us would love to hear a detailed plan to fix what we can all tell is broken. If you have a better plan, spit it out. Q and /ourguys/ already came up with one, but you're sitting here, on the sidelines, attempting to convince people that the plan they came up with or are participating in isn't helping. You're actually the first person any sane and organized movement would stuff in some cellar somewhere, because this kind of rhetoric is the exact thing that prevents more organized and genuine "resistance" to tyranny in any or all forms. You're actually doing more to harm forward progress than any of us not marching through the streets with rifles and demanding blood. This kind of sentiment is the exact thing that would get even more people killed and your confused and silly assertions that none of us are doing anything while you sit there and speak about how we should do something else while not offering an alternative (well, you are offering one, you just won't state it) route for us to take is accomplishing the very thing you're accusing all of us of.