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Start meeting local and in person. Expose any 3 letter agency types some how? I don't know how this would be done but...

BUT?!

all you faggots do is hate and attack and never have real world solutions.

So q was fake and a psyop okncool its main goals where all solid except for trust the plan... let's get something rolling

Start meeting local and in person. Expose any 3 letter agency types some how? I don't know how this would be done but... BUT?! all you faggots do is hate and attack and never have real world solutions. So q was fake and a psyop okncool its main goals where all solid except for trust the plan... let's get something rolling

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So q was fake and a psyop okncool

its main goals where all solid except for trust the plan

Choose one. If it is a (((psyop))) (which it is), then it's main goals you say are solid are not the goals Q gave you. The real main goals are to distract, pacify and divide. They worked very well.

As for real world solutions- talking about real world solutions on a public forum is not the way to do it. That telegraphs your plans and moves. It's a dumb and extremely risky thing to do. The things that are being organized and planned IRL are NOT being done out in the open and they aren't including you or others who fell for the (((Q psyop))). You can try your own thing, but you better be on the lookout for gullible hopium addicts just as much if not more than the feds and glowies. Both need to be purged from your ranks because neither the hopium addicts of the feds/glowies will help out your cause. Just because you think someone is good doesn't make them a good asset for your cause. You need to really, really know who they are and how much you can trust them. Anything less and you will have a bad time.

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Pacify? Yes don't do any lone wolf attacks that would allow more attacks against white conservatives and more attacks on the end amendment.

Do your own research aka getting people I never thought in a million years would question the agenda are now going full bore the media is the enemy the elite are pedophiles and all the other shit we know to be true

Brought attention to pizza gate and how realnthat shit was.

Your final message don't organize online

Fuck off kike

[–] • 2 pts

Your final message don't organize online

If that's your final take away from what I said, then go ahead and telegraph your moves for all the feds and glowniggers to see. They'll just lock you up and forget about you like the 1/6 useful idiots.

Good luck with your plans, niggerfaggotkike.

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Ray Epps. He wasn't the only one either. Your clear lack of understanding of the topics you discuss is pitiful. You talk about feds lurking, but you can't even spot them or observe their actions which indicate the exact thing you point out.

You're a poser, Morbo.

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Well look at my plan for me and the people I will be hanging out with.this 0lan is for all white males and is simple fun and effective and will make your life better in every aspect unless your a lazy fuck.

  1. Get in shape
  2. Get moral<<< this is why the deepstate and the jews hate Christians glowniggers and feds and operatives can't fuck with the armor of morality. Some glownigger starts talking about committing crimes all of us look at him and ask if he is a glownigger or turn his ass in.
  3. Get out of debt
  4. Get an off grid Homestead
  5. Get a white woman start having kids
  6. Practice<< daily practice skills talents musical instruments what ever just get better at doing all kinds of things

So a group like this let's call it a modern Amish type group will thrive and can't be fucked with what can the goverment do to the Amish? Nothing and they are killing it the Mormons are as well they have the highest white birth rates in the world I think

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Explain what the Q guys didn't do that you wanted them to do, which is causing you to insist they didn't do enough because they were distracted by "trusting the plan". We both know what those words mean, Morbo. You're just sick and tired of this shit (like the rest of us) and want to take extreme measures. The only group organizing without a leader to blame is not working fast enough or getting permanent and observable enough results, so you blame the entire process as a placation measure.

I think what you really want is a lot of people to be violent. What else could the "they aren't going far enough" shtick mean?

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

All I see Q-fags doing is talking about how "Q woke people up, so fuck all those anti-q fags who don't have any real world solutions of their own. We're better because we're awake and... and... and fuck, what do we do now that we're awake, again? Sit on message boards? Q? Are you there?"

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Go on. Explain what they should do beyond helping more people learn things they didn't consider learning before. Say what the next plan of action should be. We'll wait. We both know what you're saying here and I think it's clear that you're dancing around not looking like a fed trying to get people to do and say stupid shit so that federal faggots can use force against them in order to "prevent violence from occurring".

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

If you needed a LARP to tell you government is corrupt and the system is broken, you're an idiot and I don't want you as an ally; retards are a liability.

As far as what can we do? I have no clue. Nothing. Nothing can be done. I say, and have been saying, let the fuckers burn it all down and when they've all been murdered or starved to death, the useful survivors can rebuild. I'm also a fan of Atlas Shrugged, so one can imagine where I got this idea.

One thing I can do, for sure, is admit that I don't know what to do about it all. I don't pretend to have answers. I don't berate others for not having answers(so long as they don't pretend that they do.) I don't ridiculously call every person who disagrees with me a fed, shill, jew, or glowie. I don't use emotion to manipulate people.

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They've been lied to and fucked with so much, man. You're just going to let everyone die and not care about them? If this is a question of compassion or none, I think I'd rather have a little and try to help where possible, even if it looks as futile as trying to wake them up from their deep sleep. I think that's far more valuable than just giving up and throwing a tantrum in solitude. At least you have the balls to admit you don't have a finer solution. I just wish more people were like you and realized they aren't as resourceful as they want to think they are and that other people are more capable than they are sometimes. Me, I have no trouble admitting some people are better than me at plenty of things. If those people appear to have a plan of some kind, why not try to do what I can to strengthen a cause we all know is imperative? This is more about hedging a bet than it is knowing I'm right. For me, this is about acknowledging the kind of world I'd want to live in and putting my chips with the side that I think is the most likely to succeed. Now, is some amorphous group purporting to save the world by talking about things that make the corporate media flail around and shout obscenities and call them all crazy and terrorists so law enforcement might do something to stop them the best place to store my chips? I don't fucking know. What I do know, however, is that people who give up and say, "well, I don't have a plan, but yours is dumb" should probably be ignored.

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I'm with you. I wish I had the answers. My observations are that these CIA & FBI child fucking scum have been destroying other countries before you and I were born. Any organic movement is subverted with their spies. They use techniques of violence within "Peaceful protests" to justify their military intervention. They will claim domestic terrorism against any opposition.

At this moment I consider USA captured by communists. Sec of National defense Gen Austin is a BLM masking nigger who is pushing CRT upon every new grunt , Military advisor is that fat drag queen Milley, Wray kept his FBI position, AG Merrick straight bolshevik kike, Secretary of health is a beaner without an MD from California Xavier Becera, Federal Reserve kike, NSA Kike, Border security Kike, everywhere I look there's some Communist Bolshevik at the helm...

Studying socialist & communist revolutions has shown me that the activist commie never gives up till his last helicopter ride. I'm going to quote history and this is not a call for violence. "Liberation from a tyrannical government comes at a price of loss of life" and it's not just one person I'm talking about. In the end the Elite who wind ppl up usually never pay the price. They watch ppl slaughter themselves like hunger games from their mansions.

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Meet at night to see if they glow. Run over anyone who glows.

Make St. Terry proud.

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If there were people getting together to file criminal complaints about their greviences I would check that out.

I know the doj is corrupt, but until the habbing starts that is all we got.

Protesting is a waste of time.

File complaints and lean bonds, that's something.

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Protesting is a waste of time?

Seemed to work for the jews using niggers to get all this bullshit civil rights hate speech shit... the communist agenda got pushed and accepted by these idiots protesting did you forget blm rioting looting and burning for 9 months to scare the goverment into submission?

That being said looking at Jan 6th there is obviously a completely different set of rules for the founders of this country white strait males will be absolutely destroyed if they try doing anything

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Just a thought

2000 people protest in the street for a couple weeks... what changes?

Vs

20 people sitting down together to make a list of grievances like government overeach and oath violations like title 18 section 242.... they file criminal complaints individually and or collectively.

The courts (corrupted or not) must address these issues. Imagine if those 20 taught 20 more people how to do the same thing. Technically I guess it's still a form of protest, it just that it's publicly recorded and public officials can be forced to do their jobs, either by leaning their bond or legal prosecutions for abrogating their oath.

The pen is mightier than the sword, until it's not, and by then its go time.

It would be wild to get 2000 people to do that but I think it will be a challenge getting the first 40.

If enough people do things like this the entire judicial system would jamb up to a stand still. Every traffic violation with out an accident or injured party is a 242 depravation of rights under color of law case.

Unfortunately most people can't be bothered to wright a simple letter to remedy the most basic problems.

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I like the way you are thinking

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Trouble coping with being swindled? Don't drag other people into this. Figure your own shit out.

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Another emotional bullshit no solution shill type answer.

I was not swindled you fucking idiot. I didnt trust the plan I hoped it was real as all normal American white people should have. But I have been to busy getting my shit together and helping others not being a faggot shill like you with nothing no answers no alternatives just bitch emotional attacks

[–] • 2 pts

You don't telegraph your moves to the enemy ahead of time.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I'M NOT EMOTIONAL YOU'RE EMOTIONAL LET"S MAKE A PLAN AND DO SOMETHINGGG

Glow harder.

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I'm for sure. Ot a glownigger and my plans are glownigger proof

  1. Get in shape
  2. Get moral<<< the anti glownigger super weapon the armor of morality
  3. Get out of debt
  4. Get an off grid homestead going
  5. Get a white woman have kids
  6. Practice new skills fun and practical

We will become modern day amish

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attempting to have an earnest debate means you're coping

Why would you expect a respectable response to this? Why quash any genuine discourse before it can arise?

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Q was a hoax. I never fell for it. Not once. Anyone who enters a frenzy over it, like OP, is probably pissed they were swindled by deep state jews YET. AGAIN.

The discourse ends with: Q was a hoax. Stop trying to form vague plans with strangers on the internet that lead nowhere but federal government plans.

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What about the rational anti-Q people? The ones who saw it was bullshit once Q tried to push that Hillary Clinton and Podesta were definitely arrested, just secretly. Q was bullshit from day 1.

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I've seen very few rational ones most of the time it is over the top angry emotional shill attacks and muddying the waters typical jew bolshivik tactics.

I think a lot of disinformation was put out to make Q look bad but the entire secret codes and figure out clies bullshit seemed retarded to me. Just speak plain and truthfully.

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did Q actually accomplish anything?

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No, he only posted over a three year span and woke up millions of people and brought them all together, no, Q didn't accomplish anything.

[–] • 6 pts

You could say the same thing about the original Matrix movie. 1984 and Brave New World woke up lots of people too, but nothing changed there either. Waking up people is as effective as raising awareness for breast cancer. It makes you feel like you're doing something good when in reality you're not doing anything at all while people continue to die from breast cancer. It made some people a lot of money, but never will there be a cure brought about by raising awareness.

Waking up people/raising awareness is just virtue signaling masturbation. You might feel good for a few seconds, but then you just have a mess you need to clean up.

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If no one knows what's wrong, who's behind it or what our options are, how can we ever fix anything? You seem like you don't want more people to know about it. Your position is essentially, "why bother helping people learn if they won't do anything about it?"

I think you're demoralized and don't see why more people learning how to learn again is valuable. I think you're bothered that people aren't being dragged in to the streets and murdered. What does "cleaning up the mess" look like to you if this isn't what you're saying? I think all of us would love to hear a detailed plan to fix what we can all tell is broken. If you have a better plan, spit it out. Q and /ourguys/ already came up with one, but you're sitting here, on the sidelines, attempting to convince people that the plan they came up with or are participating in isn't helping. You're actually the first person any sane and organized movement would stuff in some cellar somewhere, because this kind of rhetoric is the exact thing that prevents more organized and genuine "resistance" to tyranny in any or all forms. You're actually doing more to harm forward progress than any of us not marching through the streets with rifles and demanding blood. This kind of sentiment is the exact thing that would get even more people killed and your confused and silly assertions that none of us are doing anything while you sit there and speak about how we should do something else while not offering an alternative (well, you are offering one, you just won't state it) route for us to take is accomplishing the very thing you're accusing all of us of.

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No, not really, this was a real movement, the things you mention just aroused curiosity, of course, social media wasn't around then, so who knows.

>Waking up people is as effective as raising awareness for breast cancer. It makes you feel like you're doing something good when in reality you're not doing anything at all while people continue to die from breast cancer.

That's true, but the comparison is probably a bit weak with Q.

Waking people up ... it has to start somewhere.

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but i mean didnt it keep making promises that never came true? "its gonna happen"

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Yes, in that sense, but mostly Q posted info, people got the impression he was a prophet, Q was more of a 'forth-teller' than a 'foreteller.'

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I think this kind of assumption draws from not having a clear idea of what it is that Q was doing, what anons' roles were and why that didn't look differently than it did. Q was meant to relay information. That was the gist of the goal. What kind of information? It was classified information. See, with the way NDAs work and the system that governs confidentiality in the USA, there are certain things you can and can't say. Q's aim was to avoid legal repercussion and also convey information that would help autists from around the world decipher what the information meant so that they could arrive at the information Q was pointing to without Q divulging directly the innerworkings of intelligence operations, which would result in Q inevitably getting in trouble for having leaked classified information. The role of anons was to decipher this information, analyze it and disperse the information in a way that was appetizing and meaningful enough to point those willing to do their own research in the right direction. The reason it had to look so ambiguous and couldn't just be a list of what's wrong, how we can go about fixing it and how to prevent it again in the future is because of the confidential information structure that governs need to know information classifications. So Q used anons to craft that framework by supplying them with nebulous information that needed pieced back together.

Q essentially was a big Game. The idea was to be just succinct and obscure enough to get the interesting minds to commit, to then get them to speak with people around them and to in the end help people adjacent to those gifted enough to present the information to try to help more people understand what's wrong, how it can be fixed and why there can't be more direct involvement with people that have the ability to end the charade overnight.

The reason Q can't just snap their fingers and turn the problems off is because it wouldn't fix anything. People have to find the will to change on their own and then learning how to fix problems on their own means it might not happen again if they now understand the process of how to prevent getting back in to this scenario. This is the same reason why you teach men to fish instead of giving them fish.

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Clearly define 3 goals that you would like to see accomplished by a Q type movement. Solutions are much easier b when you can clearly define the problem, clearly define the goals, and identify the obstacles.

So, tell me, what would you like to see accommodate? Be very specific.

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  1. Repeal the hart cellar act. Grass roots movement start local and get politicians in place that will try to make this happen
  2. Work on passing an amendment that will end the federal reserve for ever
  3. Work on bringing charges against the Bush Clinton crime families for crimes against humanity and as war criminals

I know those are basically impossible but if I had a billion dollars and was starting a 3rd party these would be stated goals... u might have seen what I am doing and encouraging all white males to do.

  1. Get in shape
  2. Get moral
  3. Get put of debt
  4. Get an off grid Homestead
  5. Get a white woman and have kids
  6. Practice skills daily serious or fun ones just practice

This is the long term answer we need a new white movement to the country similar to the amish... be able to feed your self and have power the govetment can't shut off.

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I am going to say what I see with movements here and how things go sideways. Let us assume a movement starts honestly. First, a bunch of honest people get together and try to organize into a coherent body. This can take months. During that time, people who want the glory and to bee written down in history books try to take power. From what I have seen, these people tend to have little or no leadership qualities, and should be relegated to menial tasks and told they are super important to the role. That being said, if diligent leaders do not do this, said people tend to alienate good people, until said person is at the top of the power structure. If that happens, movement over. If this happens, opposition agents tend to endear themselves to said person, and start to control the group through said persons incompetence. At that point, media can be alerted, as the group now does erratic, stupid things. If the leader is able to herd the cats, then the opposition attempts to smear the leader in hopes of removing that one person or few people from power. If that happens, they install a useful idiot, and bilk the group body of all power and money, all the while casting them in a poor light.
If the leader succeeds in quelling the power hungry, and does not get ousted by opposition, then opposition tends to smear the group as a whole, painting them as wackos, loonies, or cult, etc...
If none of these opposition tactics work, then opposition swipes the group out, as it has become a legitimate threat.

Further thoughts on the subject of groups: I have watched the occupy wall street bunch, and have concluded that the first explanation happened. They could not come up with ANY coherent arguments.
I have watched Oathkeepers, and believe the first and last explanation has occurred. It started with a simple message, and became controlled opposition/ demonized by media. I believe Q Anon is an evolution of controlled opposition. I believe it is/was a way to control discontent from the start.
I'm not saying that the people who bought into Q are bad or dumb. I see a large group of good people who are/were looking for a means to assemble, but lacked leadership, and hope/d that it was real.
Any people who wish to form a group should be able to, but as Kaczynski said, (On technology) "You cannot separate the good from the bad."

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Great points. What are your thoughts on Owen benjamin and beartaria... he seems to be getting whit done by basing it on being moral... I've seen it first hand good people trying to get out of the jew hell system.

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If it's a national level person, I dont listen to them. If they have any celebrity or larger following I tend to watch them for inconsistencies ( e.g. Charlie Kirk, Ben (jew) Shapiro). Over time they expose themselves for what they are. As for those two you mentioned I dont know much about them. I have heard Owen Benjamin quite a bit, bit not beartaria.

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Look into it I have been watching him on and off for years... my issue is he has calmed down on the jew issue and he is a little weird about white... says white doesn't exisit... well America was a nation founded by free white men.. its stated in the constitution... they seemed to know that white existed.

He always ask how do you define white especially Americans that are mixed... I used the porn analogy i can't completely define white but I know it when I see it. Irish are white Italians better have mixed with a lot of white blood to be white.

Over all beartaria and what they are trying to do seems solid on all fronts