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If you pushed paper and never saw any actual combat I don't think you should get the same level of respect as a guy standing up and shooting while being shot at.

I hung out with an old vet from Vietnam who was so fucking annoying turns out he was a pencil pusher he was on full disability getting 3k a year paying no property tax.. for 3 or 4 years of pencil pushing

If you pushed paper and never saw any actual combat I don't think you should get the same level of respect as a guy standing up and shooting while being shot at. I hung out with an old vet from Vietnam who was so fucking annoying turns out he was a pencil pusher he was on full disability getting 3k a year paying no property tax.. for 3 or 4 years of pencil pushing

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Thst was the most respectful and disrespectful reply I have seen.

My title was bad I've said this to a couple people.

I should have just said I'd like hats designating front line in the shit combatants versus pencil pushers. I had bad experience with 2 vets who didn't do shit but cheat the system they get full medical and pay no proper taxes and brag about it. As I pay over 20k a year in property taxes

Great points I will fuck off now

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LOL, that last paragraph I wrote, I was trying to channel Colonel Jessup from "a few good men" movie where he is saying "I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to, until you pick up a weapon and walk a post, fuck right off." (something like that) Cheers to you and happy new year.

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You too sorry if I offended

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Never apologize for anything

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Learn to read the medals and insignia on the hat and you will know.

The red orange green Vietnam medal just means that they served in the theater. An arrowhead on the Vietnam ribbon means they were on the front lines (but lacking it doesn't mean they weren't.) A silver star ribbon (blue white red white blue) means they did some outrageous shit. A bronze star (red-white-blue-white-red) means nearly the same thing, especially with a V pinned in the middle (for valor in combat.) The other stuff gets down into the weeds, but the only ribbon (AFAIK) with purple on it is a Purple Heart, and you can't miss it, it's all purple.

You also need to realize that "in combat" is a grey line. My grandfather stood by the door in Westmoreland's plane with a pistol while they base they were at was being attacked. He never fired it. Does that count as combat? My business mentor was inside the tail of a C-130 trying fix the hydraulics so they could get off the ground while a mortar attack was going on (hence the need to get off the ground.) While he's in there, watching shrapnel make a little light show by punching tiny holes in the hull, was that combat?

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All good points again I needed a better title that was more clear. Your comment cleared a lot of it up

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I've heard of officers driving out into the desert to give each other bronze stars. Even within the infantry / combat specialties there's still fuckery going on. Just look at Audie Murphy's book: written by a Hollywood script writer. Vasili Zaitsev was similar, a brave and competent guy blown up way out of proportions. Other than what's recorded on video, consider war stories as being only as good as their teller.