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If you pushed paper and never saw any actual combat I don't think you should get the same level of respect as a guy standing up and shooting while being shot at.

I hung out with an old vet from Vietnam who was so fucking annoying turns out he was a pencil pusher he was on full disability getting 3k a year paying no property tax.. for 3 or 4 years of pencil pushing

If you pushed paper and never saw any actual combat I don't think you should get the same level of respect as a guy standing up and shooting while being shot at. I hung out with an old vet from Vietnam who was so fucking annoying turns out he was a pencil pusher he was on full disability getting 3k a year paying no property tax.. for 3 or 4 years of pencil pushing

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Should we really be respecting globohomo warriors?

It’s not like they actually fought for our freedoms, that lie was exposed years ago.

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True but man I hit a hornets nest of boomers on this topic but my title was bad. I really would like a obvious designation showing Frontline people who were in the shit versus pencil pushers

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A bunch of vets have the hat that says "combat veteran". My hat says "dysfunctional veteran, leave me alone". That hat gets lots of laughs, and many ask where I bought it from. They are everywhere on ebay and amazon.

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Good call I should look for the designation.

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It looks like you triggered the boomers who fought for the zog wars (muh veitnam and muh korea)

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I mean some were drafted.. but ya to go fight a jew war against farmers that didn't give a fuck about any of this shit.. Tolkien bay? Or however u spell it was a false flag and we should have never been there.

It goes back to the boomers parents the worst generation ever thst fought along side zog Russian controlled commies to kill their brothers the Germans trying to save the world

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Theres a lot more than I thought on here.

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I worked intel distro network computers stationed in Korea during desert storm. Rarely talk about it. My father was a marine during Korean War, rarely spoke of his time there. He was on the front line with anti-tank rocket launcher. Everyone handles the war experience different. All I know it takes a whole lot of support to make it happen.

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Trump said then-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was “willing to fight Iran to the last American soldier.”

This is the story of every American foreign war

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>Not for you to judge who is or is not a US military vet.

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Man I need to repost my title was bad.

What I was getting at is I'd like a designation for vets that were in the shit saw front line combat etc... I just had multiple bad experience with vets getting free shit bragging about it and they never did shit.

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>So if people who served in the military got injured and developed a disability while in should not get benefits?

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If you got hurt from your activities in the millitary hell yes they should get paid. The two people I knew got hurt out side of the millitary and somehow got100% disability...

I knew a parajumper who's knees and back where fucked! He absolutely deserved every thing he got the other two are losers that should be sued and have to return their money

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I just had multiple bad experience with vets getting free shit bragging about it and they never did shit.

Some people are just loudmouth braggarts. Even if they were on the frontlines or were never in the army you'd still have reason to hate them because they'd just be bragging about some other bullshit.

As for paper-pushers, a war is won through supporting roles. Doesn't matter how fortified or badass your frontlines are, if they're not supported logistically they will collapse. There's a reason that when you look at wars from the 1600's it's like "King Jeff, 3 of his buddies and 27 peasants, vs King Pierre, 5 of his buddies, 9 peasants and14 mercenaries"

I recall a figure during the Bush administration that it cost approximately $750,000 to train a single soldier and deploy them to Afghanistan. Assuming only 1/3 of that is staffing costs, that's $250,000 worth of time and effort paper-pushers spend to get that soldier to Afghanistan.

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Did YOU serve, OP? I don't care, I really don't, but just thought I should throw that question out there. I was a "printed circuit board" repairman. We had 2 x semi-trailers hooked together with a cat walk. (We called them Vans) 1 van was the repair side, other van was stuffed wall to wall with electronic equipment to test all sorts of other electronic equipment. The AIT (school) to learn how to solder 128 pin computer chips, + learn how to run the equipment, was 11 months long. Extremely in depth electronics theory and practice. That is the reason I joined, to get an electronics education. And that is what I say when some one says thank you for your service. "I served to get an electronics education and I got It!!!" So I was a REMF, rear echelon mother fucker/in the rear with the gear. Never shot a bullet in anger/was never sent to the sandbox.

Now with all that said, you know where I am coming from. Army medically retired me after only 6 years due to bad knees. I fought it, I appealed the honorable/medical discharge. I wanted to stay in. Only 6 years in, I had re-enlisted once, and planned on doing 20 years. But no, Army says I have bad knees, so they honorably discharged me. I do get compensation monthly, and it is tax free. I ask for, and receive, a 10% discount every time I go to Home Depot or Lowes. I do NOT participate in all the free food giveaways on Veterans day.

Now with all that said---I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT OTHER VETERANS, EVEN IF YOU ARE A VET, IDGAF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME OR ANYONE ELSE. UNTIL YOU HAVE WALKED A THOUSAND MILES IN MY FUCKED UP LEGS IDC WHAT YOUR FUCKING OPINION IS---KINDLY FUCK OFF.

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Thst was the most respectful and disrespectful reply I have seen.

My title was bad I've said this to a couple people.

I should have just said I'd like hats designating front line in the shit combatants versus pencil pushers. I had bad experience with 2 vets who didn't do shit but cheat the system they get full medical and pay no proper taxes and brag about it. As I pay over 20k a year in property taxes

Great points I will fuck off now

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LOL, that last paragraph I wrote, I was trying to channel Colonel Jessup from "a few good men" movie where he is saying "I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to, until you pick up a weapon and walk a post, fuck right off." (something like that) Cheers to you and happy new year.

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You too sorry if I offended

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Learn to read the medals and insignia on the hat and you will know.

The red orange green Vietnam medal just means that they served in the theater. An arrowhead on the Vietnam ribbon means they were on the front lines (but lacking it doesn't mean they weren't.) A silver star ribbon (blue white red white blue) means they did some outrageous shit. A bronze star (red-white-blue-white-red) means nearly the same thing, especially with a V pinned in the middle (for valor in combat.) The other stuff gets down into the weeds, but the only ribbon (AFAIK) with purple on it is a Purple Heart, and you can't miss it, it's all purple.

You also need to realize that "in combat" is a grey line. My grandfather stood by the door in Westmoreland's plane with a pistol while they base they were at was being attacked. He never fired it. Does that count as combat? My business mentor was inside the tail of a C-130 trying fix the hydraulics so they could get off the ground while a mortar attack was going on (hence the need to get off the ground.) While he's in there, watching shrapnel make a little light show by punching tiny holes in the hull, was that combat?

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All good points again I needed a better title that was more clear. Your comment cleared a lot of it up

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I've heard of officers driving out into the desert to give each other bronze stars. Even within the infantry / combat specialties there's still fuckery going on. Just look at Audie Murphy's book: written by a Hollywood script writer. Vasili Zaitsev was similar, a brave and competent guy blown up way out of proportions. Other than what's recorded on video, consider war stories as being only as good as their teller.

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I was in a similar boat as you. Similar MOS but I was deployed once with a maintenance battalion and once attached to an armor battalion but still serving in a maintenance role. Only went outside the wire twice. Worked the front gate for 1/2 my first deployment.

All that being said, quit being a whiny bitch. You didn't do shit. I didn't do shit. OP is right. Some guys got their fucking legs blown off or inhaled agent orange and I had to sit in a guard tower and try not to fall asleep. Poor me.

On top of that I'd go as far as to say most veterans don't deserve any level of respect. I know dudes that were COLOSSAL pieces of shit. Garbage NCOs too stupid to do anything else until they got out and then wave the veteran card around looking for admiration and a ticket to easy street coasting on fake valor. Dumb drunk retards who couldn't lead a roped horse to a sugar cube riding around with DV plates because they have shin splints.

You fucked your knees up. Boo hoo. Nobody made you sign up now you want to act like you did this country a great service. My hips are jacked. I'm not bitching about it. Realize you got fucking conned and you aren't a hero. The biggest difference between you and me is I wasn't disillusioned when I signed up.

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Seek... Professional....Help......

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Bro, you did 6 years and never deployed.

6 years of what, sweeping motorpools and doing PT? And your knees were that bad? Did you even leave the house when you grew up?

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6 years of what, sweeping motorpools

LOL, not even that. Being a remf, and a 7-10 man maintenance team, we didn't do much, physically. PT? Yes. Ran 15-20 miles a week for 5 + years. Bad knees. (grew up on dairy farm, milking cows, raising beans, corn, winter wheat and tobacco)

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You have no idea what the "old guy" did... I have friend who is about 5'2" and he was "rat" - went into vietcong tunnels because he could fit... headfirst with a .45 handgun.

So just say thanks and go on about your wonderful non combat life... fucker

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I have no problem buying that guys meal and beers and thanking him.

But I met a false Valor fucker and that ain't right.

Did you even read my post? I was not saying ignore those people or I didn't mean too.. but I would like a combat designation that is obvious the guy that did what your friend did and that's the guy I want to thank. But from what I have seen the real dudes the real men they don't even want acknowledgement

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The ones who were in the shit feel no need to tell others. The way I see it, anyone trying to brag about it is a faggot who was most likely, some brass's little bitch.

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My husband served in country but didn't shoot at people. He strapped pilots in their seats, and kept the nav and com systems working. So if he wants to wear a fucking Vietnam hat....he will. They sprayed agent orange on their heads right over the barracks. He has cancer, PTSD, hearing loss, and early dementia. If someone was "in country" they supported the guys in the sky and on the ground. He saw a lot of deaths and can't talk about it much. Can't tell you how many people he's met who claim to be snipers or whatever, then when he asks specific questions they come up dry.

Downvote from scum noted and KYS.

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What does he have PTSD from? Soldiers returning scratched batteries?

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From seeing people that he knew and worked with die right in front of him. He worked on planes you fucking little punk. From nearly having his throat cut by a gook. From Agent orange exposure. What happened to your soul?

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Lol what a faggot of a husband, works some background support job and get PTSD from getting attacked by a gook with a knife.

There are McDonalds workers who have seen more crap than your husband.

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I didn't down voat anyone and I think I already replied to you my title was bad and didn't come off right. You make a very valid point.

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Respect the man not the job. Why would you respect a prick because he wore a uniform and why would you not respect a hobo if he has integrity?

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Hot take: The current military system should only apply to the 2% or so actual combat personnel. For all the support jobs, the government should just hire civilians normally, same way they get postmen, police officers and DMV clerks. They shouldn't do boot camp, wear uniform, get equipment issued or be held to general PT standards by default, except where directly applicable to their job. They shouldn't get VA benefits or GI bill or generally count as veterans.

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