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This is what I'm looking at getting. Any suggestions reviews have been good. Going to do some more research before I get one

Thanks yall been great in the past on topics or questions like this

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Uh, a $1200 radio is simply that, a radio... with a fancy spectrum analyzer and digital internet connected stuff for all your hobby geeking glory.

If your planning SHTF, your priorities will need to change. 1.) If transmit distance is utmost (or low wattage), you will need to invest in a LARGE, stationary land, quality antenna that is tuned for a specific frequency range and transmit in low frequencies that carry voice in the category of "potato". A radio is purchased for its SNR (signal to noise ratio) that is its quality of both transmit and receive for a given antenna and the environment. Think of photography, you go out and buy a $3000 camera and nothing else, thinking you are the most badass photographer, but your not. Photography is not about the camera, its about the lighting and the subject. Without light, without a subject, there is no photography and the camera is useless. 2.) All that internet connected stuff and computers will not be available if power company is shutoff. Also there are radio directional finders to pinpoint your location, the FCC literally has triangulation monitors in the US if they get a flag of some guy just blasting music over the airwaves. You will also cause interference, and may need to monitor how you are transmitting to keep your noise down from your neighbors (at least, this was really bad in the old days of AM radios and analog TV)

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Don't blow a buncha buxx on that unless you're planning on making long distance contacts. You still need antenna, cable, and all the other stuff that goes with it.

You can get a good Yaesu handheld for $150, a Baofeng for $30. If you want something with higher power, a 2M unit with 50W power and a mobile antenna can be had for under $300.

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Ok that sounds like a better option.

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I have a number of the Baofeng handhelds. If you do decide to get a couple, get the programming cable as well - you'll find it worth the money. You can program them using a free software package called Chirp. That package will program most common handhelds.

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I got one last April and spent a month reading up on setting it up. I must be retarded because I couldn't figure shit out. :(

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Hamstudy.org make an account and study up. You'll pass the test no problem.

Get a Yaesu for your first HT. Study for the exam and get a technician license so you can practice making contacts and so you can verify that you successfully programmed your local repeaters. Don't illegally transmit. It's not even the FCC that you have to worry about. The ham community is filled with civnat boomers who will DF you and report you to the FCC themselves.

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The fact their are faggot anti freedom civ nat boomers reporting people is enough to turn me off from ham radio.. what fucking country nation doesn't allow people to fucking talk over radios freely it is very insane... you would think this would be a clear first amendment freedom of speech issue but America died when Woodrow Wilson let the jew bankers create the federal reserve

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what fucking country nation doesn't allow people to fucking talk over radios freely it is very insane

that's the wrong take on the situation I think.

radio spectrum is very expensive and very crowded, one single fucktard who doesn't know what they are doing can fuck up a whole village https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54239180

If everyone was clueless then radio would be useless. A functioning society needs people willing to police its dumb niggers

Go do the HAM cert first, you'll understand a lot more about the topic and you'll be able to make better decisions because you'll understand what people are suggesting.

FWIW , get a Baofeng handheld + cable and have a play, you'll find a use for it regardless of what you do next

If it's for SHTF, think about how and where to erect a big antenna tower, and I've always thought solar powered repeaters should be on every preppers base list

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No problem good info.. I just don't want to put the time and effort then the first time I say 6 million seems to high the fcc comes knocking on my door.

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Is this babby's first radio? If so, unless you're stupidly rich, don't get anything more than $40.

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Not stupid rich.. but can afford 1000 for a hobby. Have a off grid set up truck and camper figure it can't hurt to have a nice radio. Gonna get my license.

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Makes sense, you definitely are stepping into the deep end of the pond with that one.

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Getting a good hand held first and then get your license...

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First, consider what kind of comms will be of real benefit to you in a SHTF scenario, then pick your radio. Here are my opinions.

The small handheld 2 m unit units are of limited value. Most, including the cheap Baefung, will allow you to monitor (and illegally) operate on local law enforcement and/or emergency frequencies. There is some utility there, but the typical use is immediate regional comms (40-ish mile radius). To do so, however, is dependent on radio repeaters which you do not control and which represent single points of failure which can be taken down. Point to point communications will be limited to between 10 or 20 miles typically because of power limitations and the nature of the line of sight frequencies. Communications mode will be voice FM.

If you have a radio that can get on 80 m this will provide access to regional communications typically extending one or two states around you. This is very useful. There are multiple message-passing and informational nets, both official and informal. This is how you know what is going on in your geographical region, most useful for natural disasters, supply shortages, etc... Mode of communication will typically be side band voice, though CW (code) is an option. CW helps punch through high atmospheric noise levels and provides some level of security through obscurity against casual eavesdroppers. 80 m is pretty much restricted to evenings and night.

40 m, though occasionally global inreach, is pretty much the same thing except that your region will typically now cover the entire United States. 40 m has a broader usable time window, working fairly well during the morning and day and into the evening. It is probably the most general purpose band. Same modes of communication.

The shorter bands, such as 20 m, 17 m, and 15 m are typically hemispheric but are very fickle as to usable time of day.

There are many antenna types and options. A great starting option is an MFJ-1982MP. It is a simple end-fed wire antenna that you can throw over a tree limb and wind up and take somewhere else if you want to move. It is dark and non-obvious. Covers 80 m up to about 10 m. Very easy to move about and not obvious if you live in a neighborhood. I have communicated with Japan using nothing but this wire and a pine tree. You do not need a big tower nor a beam.

As for your radio, covering all of these frequency ranges in one radio is difficult. Historically they have required multiple transceivers and multiple tuners. Available these days are so-called "Shack in a Box" radios -- single units that cover everything and all of the comms modes. These are pricey, as with the Icom 7300, but they are extremely desirable as their small size and single unit construction provide one box that you can grab and go.

I personally opted for the Yaesu FT-991A and love it. It is the chief competitor to the Icom 7300, though the 7300 is very popular. I chose the Yaesu because it adds 2 m and 70 cm capability that the 7300 lacks and supports nearly every comm mode. It also exposes control and audio through a single USB connector, which makes use of the digital modes extremely simple.

Regarding the digital modes, JS8Call in my opinion will be one of the single most useful and indispensable tools in a true SHTF scenario. Look up

https://amrron.com/2014/11/24/aresraces-hf-frequencies/

Lastly, do not be discouraged by folks who dislike the waterfall displays. They are definitely more than just eye candy. Extremely useful at a glance for both spotting where traffic is and, once you get used to seeing it, what kind of traffic it is (SSTV, RTTY, PSK, JT8, etc...).

If you have a handheld as your 2 m solution I would suggest looking strongly at the Yaesu FT-891. It lacks the waterfall display but is small and rugged and compact and will handle the 80 m, 40 m, and other bands very well. Lots of people put these in backpacks.

One last thing, you will need a general class license at minimum to do all of these things. If you have not yet applied for your license here's a point of note - It all starts with what is called an FRN these days. It's a number of the FCC assigns you to track your license application and status.

USE A PO BOX FOR THE ADDRESS, not your physical address. This becomes public and easily searchable information associated with your call sign.

Good luck.

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Is it important to have a license? I have been thinking about getting a radio for awhile. Have some books my brother gave me to get familiar. I normally avoid licenses for anything I can avoid.

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They are legally required but other than operators who will ask you for it in net meetings I don't think you will run into any issues with the FCC unless you are being a nuisance. And yes they can find you just by following your signal if you're transmitting.

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Good info. I knew they could triangulate. Didnt know if they were actually monitoring. I really just want a SHTF type. I have 2way hand held a guy gave me when he got out of the army. Its locked. Dont know anybody that can unlock it. Its apparently locked a dod channel.

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I went the route of mobile unit. I have some handheld radios but my main unit is installed in my truck for survival/shtf scenarios. You can get a good Yaesu radio for about 600 that is dual band and can transmit up to 50w. Programing it is super easy too. I've always wanted a good home base setup but unless you have some serious antennas it won't do much more than a mobile or handheld radio. That being said, there are some good home brew antennas you can make for cheap, you can even alter an old satellite dish antenna for ham.

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Get a cheap Beofeng with Tri-Band that does 1.5, 4, and 8 Watts if you can track one down, they are getting harder to find.

Never ever broadcast with a 4 or 8 watt frequency unless you are in a legit emergency or until you actually know what you are doing and have a license.

It is very easy to triangulate these things and it is a felony to transmit on some bands and frequencies so keep that in mind if you do not have a radio license and the competency to use it properly. THe tri-band allows for channel monitoring and receive mod only among other useful features.

It is worth buying the programing cable so you can hook it up to your computer and block out ranges that may get you in trouble if you were to accidently transmit.

Have fun.

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I know I'm beating a dead horse but how the fuck is transmitting radio content a God damn felony? It seems absolutely insane

The radio spectrum is allocated by the FCC, and they certainly do enforce it. They will triangulate your ass and then legally rape you with the book if they suspect illegal transmission is happening.

Licensed operators will have no sympathy for an illegal transmitter, and it has to be this way.

Imagine if the radio spectrum was an unregulated free-for-all. Your neighbor could just decide he doesn't want you or anyone near him rx'ing or tx'ing, so he broadcasts jamming signals all day long. Turn on the AM or FM radio in your car, distorted gibberish on every station from so many transmitters operating all trying to overpower each other. Your cell phone won't work, people fighting for dominance on those bands, too. Police and firefighters might have to use smoke signals instead, nobody could get a word through on the radio. Radio would be practically useless if not regulated the way it is.

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Ok I think I made the wrong point... let's say I do every thing right and can broad cast and I start naming the jew? Will the fcc crack down on me then

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This tech was once cutting edge and there is still advancements being made... even today with ultra low and ultra high frequency data transmissions.

This is a good primer to get you started in understanding how things got to where they are today with the laws around RF.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349000512/A-Brief-History-of-Communications-pdf

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Just buy the baofeng like I did then leave it in the charger and never use it.

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