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[–] • 7 pts

To cover crimes of the kleptocracy. Understand we live under tyranny, not a benevolent government. They need to keep us placated and distracted. There is so much data manipulation going on I don't know where to start. Take USD currency as one example. In order to run the ponzi scheme, they need to make us believe USD has value. They essentially do that by manipulating the exchange rate of gold by creating fake gold contracts and flooding the market with them. They recently did that with bitcoin, for the same reason. If gold prices weren't manipulated, gold would be nearly $100K/oz as opposed to almost $1,800/oz (as of today).

Remember that when gold goes up in price, it really means the value of USD is going down. If one ounce of gold were to suddenly cost $100K, people would immediately dump dollars. Actually, that's happening as I write this. Now for stock prices.

When stock prices go up, in a sane world, it would be because the underlying companies were producing more value. Today, higher prices reflect QE or central bank money printing. That is, the cost of capital is dropping like a rock. You see this across the board. The equity market has hyper inflation, essentially. The government does not want us deplorables to understand this. Therefore, capital markets are kept separate from the consumer market. Just imagine what would happen if all that capital flooded into the consumer market.

[–] • 8 pts

Literally stock markets and housing are dumping grounds for newly minted currency.

Capitalism works because naturally capital goes where most needed.

This fascist system completely displaces capitalism and wealth is going into defunct companies that turn a loss.

It's economic vandalism

[–] • 2 pts

The more people wake up and realize we are living in a tyrannical prison state, the better.

Those who are using their positions of authority to steal from the masses of sheep need this system to stay alive as long as possible before inevitable collapse & revolution, so they can amass as much stolen assets as possible before the fall.

[–] • 1 pt

Remember that when gold goes up in price, it really means the value of USD is going down. If one ounce of gold were to suddenly cost $100K, people would immediately dump dollars.

Interesting this hasn't happened. Congress kept the price of gold roughly flat until gold ownership was made illegal by FDR's executive orders. That's when real inflation started. Inflation went into hyperdrive when we left the gold standard (i.e. cut congress out of gold/dollar fiat pricing) but prohibition on gold ownership actually kicked it off back in the 1930's.

So now that it's legal to own gold again, and even congress lost control of the money printer, you have to wonder why people haven't moved back into everyday trading gold for goods and services. If these conditions existed in 1850, the dollar would have died and gold would have become the defacto currency.

[–] • 4 pts (edited )

The consumer price index just measures stuff the average American household uses like food, vehicles, gas, lumber, etc..., the average American doesn't invest in stocks.

It isn't even some great inflationary measuring tool either, just an easy and convenient shorthand. For example, comparing the price of a car from the 50's and a price of a car today is illogical for inflation. It ignores the fact that cars of today aren't made out of the same materials and come jam packed with features like air conditioners, stereos, cup holders, automatic doors, airbags, sun roofs etc.. all of which didn't exist in the 50's.

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

It isn't even some great inflationary measuring tool either, just an easy and convenient shorthand. For example, comparing the price of a car from the 50's and a price of a car today is illogical for inflation. It ignores the fact that cars of today aren't made out of the same materials and come jam packed with features like air conditioners, stereos, cup holders, automatic doors, airbags, sun roofs etc.. all of which didn't exist in the 50's.

It makes perfect sense to make a direct comparison because if you need a car to drive to your job you have to buy what's available. All that other shit is irrelevant. Dishonest economists want to factor in the extraneous bullshit to downplay inflation. "Look goy! You're getting so much more for your shekels!"

The only time it wouldn't make sense is if the consumer had the choice to buy a car similarly equipped as a 1950's car. Then you couldn't compare a 1950's car to a modern car with all the options you describe because that would be like comparing the price of government cheese in 1955 to the price of caviar today. However, If all you can buy is caviar today it's imperative for accuracy that you make precisely that comparison.

[–] • 1 pt

The consumer price index just measures stuff the average American household uses like food, vehicles, gas, lumber, etc..., the average American doesn't invest in stocks.

The CPI leaves out "volatile" things like food and energy, because it makes the government look bad.

[–] • 2 pts

We all know the inflation rate is a political football and therfore manipulated as fuck. But the stock market is also heavily manipulated. It would definitely be included in an honest metric but market movements don't translate directly to purchasing power of the currency.

[–] • 1 pt

The implicit GDP price deflator is a better measure that's more difficult to manipulate.

[–] • 2 pts

My guess is a lack of reliability of the metric. How do you disambiguate a bubble from inflation or a crash from deflation as well as all the areas in between? The market will certainly trend up with inflation but it would be difficult to get a reliable measure of which component was which

[–] • 0 pt

Higher equity prices modulate inflation, not cause it. If you have investments that are appreciating your savings are growing along with inflation.

[–] • 0 pt

That's what I'm saying. Shit kills the working poor.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

Never trust someone else's economic analysis anyway. Here's mine. Maybe use it to help do your own.

I work in a professional field and have seen my income rise by a factor of 3.5 in 15 years. That's an annualized 8.4%/yr increase. However the amount of SPY I can buy for 1 hour of work has actually decreased. SPY has risen by a factor of 3.7 (from pre-housing-crash, post-crash would be much higher of course). This is a 9.2%/yr increase in S&P 500 stocks. Some say it's higher return but they're averaging in the crash whereas I just picked a date.

The result is this: you can always buy more SPY/DIA/QQQ when you're younger. Your wages will never rise as fast as stonks. A 55 year old doctor can buy the same sized retirement egg for an hour of work as a 16 year old grocery store clerk.

The S&P 500 has risen by a factor of 9 since I was in high school. I'm a little over 40 years old. This means that a high school student earning $7/hr has the equivalent stock buying power (for retirement) as a 40 year old earning $63/hr.

Stocks are expensive now but they'll never be cheaper. If you think your income sucks (as in it's literally min wage) and you're under 30, you actually have retirement buying superpower.

Here's a downer. $100,000 college paid in full with cash is nice. But if that $100,000 were invested at age 20 in the same 9.2% yielding market, it would be $5.25 million at age 65.

Buy young. Start now, no matter how little it is and no matter how expensive stocks seem. They'll literally never be cheaper. All this is driven by evil people running a money printer and fucking us, but they're our evil people and it's our money printer until we kill them and destroy it. So until we do, just do the best you can.

[–] • 0 pt

Equity is primarily current and future profit driven. Inflation usually squeezes profits. Cheap FED money and very low bond yield is what is driving the market now. Rising interest rates means that bonds are not good, real estate is not good, gold is too controlled, so the market is where money is parked.