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Maybe I'm stupid, but I can't understand what's the big deal about concealed carry of guns. I don't want to show that I have gun. It's just a matter of privacy for me. I don't want to be assaulted from behind by somebody who is trying to steal my gun. Also don't want to look like an idiot who is showing everyone his gun. I don't see what's the difference between open carry and concealed carry in terms of public safety. So why concealed carry is illegal in some states?

Maybe I'm stupid, but I can't understand what's the big deal about concealed carry of guns. I don't want to show that I have gun. It's just a matter of privacy for me. I don't want to be assaulted from behind by somebody who is trying to steal my gun. Also don't want to look like an idiot who is showing everyone his gun. I don't see what's the difference between open carry and concealed carry in terms of public safety. So why concealed carry is illegal in some states?

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[–] • 24 pts

Cops want to know if they should shoot you first or if they can get in close and abuse you safely.

[–] • 4 pts

My man. Came here to say the exact same thing, lol.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

I was training with some police when Kansas went 2A, and the police were complaining how they can't tell who is allowed to carry and who can't. I politely asked why they don't assume people are innocent until given a reason. I was snickered at, so I let it be. I'm respectful, but not a fan of LE.

[–] • 2 pts

It sounds cold and dismissive but the corruption of LE is multifaceted. Fortunately the simplest test is quotas. If you're a cop and you enforce, enable or otherwise permit the enforcement of quotas then you've broken your oath, are a traitor to the constitution and I frankly wish this was something punishable by death because if you're so brainwashed to not realize what a grotesque perversion it is of justice and the rule of law then you're so far beyond redemption that it's not even funny.

My other favorite is how we think it's normal for cops to lack even a little humanity. If anyone, cop, president, God or Jesus walks up to a stranger and says "Put your hands behind your back now." It is common knowledge that every human on this planet will resist, especially if you don't even give them any kind of explanation whatsoever. So then when the person naturally pulls back from your grip and/or pushes you back. It is a crime to use that as justification to claim resisting arrest and then literally stand on their head while you bed their arms back in a way that you know they don't bend.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I politely asked why they don't assume people are innocent until given a reason.

Honestly I think that around niggers, that philosophy could get you killed pretty quickly.

[–] • 2 pts

"I'm armed, it's in x place, I can hand it to you or you can take it for your own safety" usually works. No one likes life ending surprises.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

That's a rational comment in a thread where people want to feel victimized by the police.

[–] • 1 pt

Ooof, victimhood is a state of mind.

[–] • 0 pt

I 100% trust everyone employed by the government

[–] • 0 pt

Hey, I trust the state and know that there are no bad cops, ever, so let me give up my one piece of self defense so you know that you're in complete control of me, and you feel safer

[–] • 1 pt

Idk I only met 1 in the 23 odd years I've been here.

[–] • 9 pts (edited )

First off the "Element of surprise" is only good once your a victim. Cops and Military they Open Carry dont they? Why is that. IDK maybe infinitely fast draw time over concealed.

Fun fact did you know open carry can stop a crime before it happens? See criminals are lazy, hence why they commit crime. So they choose weak victims. They too also dont want to die. Its Okay to show you wont be victim.

Also your open carried gun well never be stolen if you keep your head on a swivel. Now you want to just be an armed NPC go conceal.

So why concealed carry is is illegal in some states?

Liberals are dumb. In fact we would all be better off if EVEYONE open carried.

Note: I do both CC and OC. Try concealing a full size 1911.... Yea some times you just have to oc.

[–] • 5 pts (edited )

Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. The number of cases of open carry where a weapon was successfully stolen in the US is something like two - against elderly men. Iirc.

Open carry and concealed are very complimentary. Open carry is a crime deterrent just like parking lot police towers, parked police cars, and security cams. Simply seeing one makes criminals think twice. This also makes them think about the concealed weapons they can't see.

As you said, criminals are prey animals. They look for the weak. They prefer no risk to themselves.

[–] • 2 pts

Drawing from AIWB can be just as fast as drawing from a retention holster with practice. Most shooters can draw from appendix and put a shot on target sub 1.5 seconds, guys that dry fire a lot are doing sub second shots on target. Open carrying makes you a target, literally search "gun stolen from open carrier" and there are dozens of news stories from the last year of different instances. Any legitimate firearms instructor will tell you that concealed carry is the only way to carry.

[–] • 2 pts

I get some of the idea of not letting anyone see that you have a gun on you. But so much of the "advice" around it comes off exactly like the fudds saying that the 2A is for sporting and hunting. Like they're desperate to not offend someone with their firearms. I OC and CC depending on where I'm headed. I started open carrying a lot more when my city tried to force masks.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

Also your open carried gun well never be stolen if you keep your head on a swivel.

Cops use active retention and so should open carriers. Usually just a button that clamps on the ejection port. You draw with your pointer finger out anyways so it's easy to press.

Edit: I should say that's one type of active retention as there's a bunch of different ones.

[–] • 0 pt

They too also dont want to die. Its Okay to show you wont be victim.

Ya damn right.

[–] • 0 pt

Pocket carry draw time with a good holster is faster than open carry. You can have your hand on the gun.

[–] • 6 pts

It's just another hurdle to make gun ownership more difficult.

[–] • 6 pts

Only criminals are allowed to conceal carry, take your jab

[–] • 0 pt

Stay back everyone! We have a retard alert...

[–] • 6 pts (edited )

It used to be acceptable to carry weapons in public. Only criminals concealed. Thus historically the law targeted criminals, and if you wanted to conceal you had to officially state your good intent. Now permits and taxes and the attacks on open carry are a huge bastardization that flips this historical reasoning on its head.

[–] • 1 pt

This is the historically accurate answer.

[–] • 5 pts

Right. Well, if I'm cc, who the hell knows. I ignore all signs that say i can't. They mean nothing.

[–] • 3 pts

One benefit I’ve noticed about open carry is that it scares liberals and Californians, I bet they are less likely to move to my community if everybody has open carry and it scares them.

You want to stop cucks and commies from moving in? Make them feel unwelcome.

[–] • 0 pt

Well said! Wish i would have oc around the kali bitch who moved in next door

[–] • 3 pts

Two reasons:

1) NPCs are scared of guns due to ignorance and stupidity. CC avoids spooking NPCs.

2) Many municipalities, businesses, etc restrict OC as a none-too-subtle attack on the 2A. Since CC often requires permits, they're trying to make it harder to exercise your 2A rights.

Which is unfortunate because OC is a great IQ test. Anyone who's scared is an idiot. Anyone who responds the same way to OC as a cool new tool on someone's work belt is high IQ (Hey, is that the new Gen 5 G17? How do you like it compared to the Gen4?)

[–] • 2 pts

NPCs are scared of guns due to ignorance and stupidity. CC avoids spooking NPC

Don’t forget conditioning. Jewish media loves portraying white men with guns as the most dangerous people in america, as if white men with guns aren’t the only ones holding this system together

[–] • 3 pts

I always figured it was because a lot of stores or private establishments have policies against weapons, so CC is the only way to legally still be protected while in the store.

[–] • 2 pts

Absolutely ZERO big deal OP. Nobody's fucking business who does or does not conceal carry. They can go fuck themselves, and eat shit.

[–] • 1 pt

Because liberals they are stupid.

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