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It worked for a while, but now no one seems to be concerned they will be sued for discriminating on the basis of a medical condition anymore. I can't help but believe its because they are more afraid of the health department fining them, but that's another issue entirely. I called the ADA hotline and asked about it. The girl on the line said "they can make protocols in the interest of public safety. This includes requirements to ware a mask or a face shield. I pressed her about how this can supersede those with a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask. The short and shit answer was too damn bad.

I am not surprised by any of this mind you. I knew the masks were never about safety or health from the beginning, and no amount of evidence as to the ineffectiveness of masks since then has changed any(government) minds about it, nor will it. The simple truth is the masks are a half-life 2 pop can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd8iNx1gGk

In the game this is a test of submission. It is designed to show the player that they are in a dystopian hell hole. The masks, which have no medical justification whatsoever, and in fact are dangerous, are just this - a test of submission.

I am sure everyone here understands that perfectly well, but for the time being I... WE need to find another way to deal with this. I won't cave. I will lose my job before I do, but so much the better if I don't have to.

So time to get down to brass tacks. What is the most effective way to ramrod this or any exemption through at work or the doctors office? If the answer is "lawyer" or "sue them", remember I'll need to start with a lawyer that will even see me without a mask, and is willing to fight this. That is a pickle right there since most will also be posed.

I need details. How do I go about finding the right lawyer, what do I say, how do I present myself? What exactly are my rights?

I'm in Indiana btw. There isn't any standing public mask mandate that I am aware of, but all the medical offices that I've checked (many) all said masks are required. I have been thrown out of several places when I booked an appointment and tried just showing up in spite of the mandates. I've said and done everything short of suing to bully this through, all to no avail. Clearly that strat isn't working anymore either. Work is now starting to press this issue again. The one manager said if they don't they will get fined. That is a problem right there.

This isn't as simple as not giving my business to a lefty restaurant. Medical and work are serious and worth fighting for.

I'm grateful for any advice.

It worked for a while, but now no one seems to be concerned they will be sued for discriminating on the basis of a medical condition anymore. I can't help but believe its because they are more afraid of the health department fining them, but that's another issue entirely. I called the ADA hotline and asked about it. The girl on the line said "they can make protocols in the interest of public safety. This includes requirements to ware a mask or a face shield. I pressed her about how this can supersede those with a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask. The short and shit answer was too damn bad. I am not surprised by any of this mind you. I knew the masks were never about safety or health from the beginning, and no amount of evidence as to the ineffectiveness of masks since then has changed any(government) minds about it, nor will it. The simple truth is the masks are a half-life 2 pop can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd8iNx1gGk In the game this is a test of submission. It is designed to show the player that they are in a dystopian hell hole. The masks, which have no medical justification whatsoever, and in fact are dangerous, are just this - a test of submission. I am sure everyone here understands that perfectly well, but for the time being I... WE need to find another way to deal with this. I won't cave. I will lose my job before I do, but so much the better if I don't have to. So time to get down to brass tacks. What is the most effective way to ramrod this or any exemption through at work or the doctors office? If the answer is "lawyer" or "sue them", remember I'll need to start with a lawyer that will even see me without a mask, and is willing to fight this. That is a pickle right there since most will also be posed. I need details. How do I go about finding the right lawyer, what do I say, how do I present myself? What exactly are my rights? I'm in Indiana btw. There isn't any standing public mask mandate that I am aware of, but all the medical offices that I've checked (many) all said masks are required. I have been thrown out of several places when I booked an appointment and tried just showing up in spite of the mandates. I've said and done everything short of suing to bully this through, all to no avail. Clearly that strat isn't working anymore either. Work is now starting to press this issue again. The one manager said if they don't they will get fined. That is a problem right there. This isn't as simple as not giving my business to a lefty restaurant. Medical and work are serious and worth fighting for. I'm grateful for any advice.

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[–] • 9 pts

Don't wear mask.

Don't get vaccinated.

Don't give into this Mockery of Sanity.

[+] [deleted] • 3 pts
[–] • 2 pts

Damn sorry I was just at a doc with no mask. Depends on your state.

[–] • 0 pt

Indiana isn't normally that bad. Outside of work or medical stuff no one, well mostly no one, is wearing a mask.

I'm all but convinced the department of health is threatening these people with fines or closing them down if they don't push shit shit, even without a standing mandate for the public.

[–] • 0 pt

It (somewhat) makes sense to wear a mask in a medical setting (or a hazardous materials setting as well), provided you are using the correct ones and for the correct purpose. Sitting in a waiting room? That's not an appropriate usage of a mask.

[+] [deleted] • 2 pts
[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

How far are you willing to go? I'm afraid there aren't many legal options left. If you're really adamant about it you can impose a cost on those who demand that you pick up that can.

Make Them Pay For It #1 You show up without a mask and make them kick you out, and don't comply until they trespass you off the property. The idea is to waste their time and energy engaging with you. Try to drag out the encounter as long as possible by pretending you don't understand what they're saying, arguing about medical exemptions, or pretending to be a foreigner who doesn't speak the language. Make sure you know the trespass laws in your state and have a plan on how you will deal with cops if called.

Make Them Pay For It #2 Enter without a mask but put it on whenever asked, then take it off again. Repeat ad infinitum.

Make Them Pay For It #3 If a business that kicks you out for not wearing a mask finds its windows broken, well, they might think twice about their anti-mask measures.

Make Them Pay For It #4 Comply with their mask policy but make them pay for it. If it's a grocery store with self checkout it might just so happen that you start making errors--all in your favor of course. If it's a business with a generous return policy then buy their items just to return them. If it's a restaurant or a deli complain about their food being inedible/disgusting and demand a refund. Leave bad reviews. I'm sure you can think of other ways, depending on the business, to turn yourself into a very unprofitable customer.

These are just thought experiments. I don't advocate for breaking the law.

[–] • 1 pt

If they don't let you in without a face diaper, then you don't need to be giving them your business. Simple as that.

[–] • 1 pt

I have also heard of some doctors just putting into the system that some people got their vax when they didn't so people can keep their jobs.

They are of course intentionally difficult to find and it's a word of mouth thing. But if I hear about it when I'm not even asking around it can't be that uncommon.

which is nice. based people still keeping their jobs and financial security. I'm sure they won't forget the way they were treated by their reps and employers.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

You ignore them and walk in anyway. Or, you can troll them - wearing one under your chin, wrapped around your wrist, or on top of your head.

[–] • 0 pt

Don't wear one. Do not comply. Carry around a folder/binder with all the info backing it up and ask them calmly where their info is backing up their nonsense?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/47-studies-confirm-inefectiveness-of-masks-for-covid-and-32-more-confirm-their-negative-health-effects/

[–] • 0 pt

Die a free man or live a slave. Which part you don't understand?

[–] • 0 pt

This is exactly the kind of motivational speech I was looking for when I asked for advice on this, and all the good ideas you put forward are wonderful as well.

As if it was impossible for the cops to show up and arrest me for breaking some bullshit health code. As if it was impossible to lose my job because I can't get the doctors at the work medical office to see me when it comes time for my required physical.

I am trying to avoid having to "die a free man" by being smart and proactive, fuck me right. I don't get how you think this kind of response is useful or called for, unless you are a Jew being paid to troll.

[–] • 0 pt

I don't know what else to tell you. They will not let you be. They will not let you talk your way out of this. Voting, petitions, protesting will not stop them. You either let them kill you and take your soul or you will not, and die free.

[–] • 0 pt

Well, since you seem to genuine I'll just say that I have no and will not comply with this bullshit or any other New World Order garbage. If needs be I will die for my freedom.

[–] • 0 pt

In Indiana? I guess you’re in a city? I’m in Missouri and almost no one wears a mask, and no place requires one. Illinois technically has a state-wide ordinance but, in the downstate, it’s probably the most ignored rule ever created.

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