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Jordan Peterson refuses to answer question about 'JQ' & Solzhenitsyn's 'Two Hundred Years Together'

https://vid8.poal.co/user/AOU/jylQFGH

That's all you need to know about controlled opposition.

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Damn, that was weird. What a faggot.

I could excuse this if he's talked about it elsewhere, in more of a private setting, or something, but I've not seen that.

Mel Gibson gives more than Peterson.

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Mel's best way to describe them, ironically, by using their own lies:

Oven dodgers

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Didn't know he said that exactly, I knew of other things.

Some of you are too old to remember Robert Mitchum.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/07/24/ny-film-festival-honoring-late-actor-robert-mitchum-who-once-denied-holocaust-in-famous-interview

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That's why I suspect the guy, yes. I remember either reading about it or hearing about it.

Will watch the clip, appreciate it.

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Same thing with Jared Taylor:

"jews are fine by me...[they] look white to me." - Jared Taylor when asked about the jews

https://poal.co/s/Truthhurts/417052

The only way to know if they are controlled opposition is to ask them about the JQ.

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Oh yeah, Jared Taylor. I used to have hope in that guy. These Hollywood celebs, some, say more truth.

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This on the other hand is a good example of controlled opposition. At best it could be ignorance but highly doubtful in this case

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Controlled opposition is one possibility. Knowing your audience is another.

Addressing the JQ is one of many tasks we have in this war. Arguably the most important one, but if JP is reaching a large audience around ideas that push back other areas of leftism and leaving this task to others then he's still an asset and an ally.

Note he didn't dispute any of the question, he expressed nonverbally this is difficult, gave himself the bare minimum of plausable deniability on the topic, and simply said "I can't" He was actually very careful not to openly discredit the asker.

He's allowed to leave that part of the fight to others. I feel like he's pulling his weight.

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stretching

lol Name checks out.

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Whatever. Either way we need to be a little more willing to use people to our advantage even if they don't check every single box as someone who should be in charge.

And yeah my username sucks but if I get a new account then I have to wait forever before I can block engrishishard again so not worth it.

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This seems like an opportunistic measure to paint JP as a jewish-apologist when, in reality, answering the question empirically would dismantle his reach to the wider audience of young men, who desperately yearn for guidance and moralism. This kind of anchoring technique, being used by you and others like you, to attach "JP is a jewish-apologist" to any mention of his name, undermines that very work. This is a super disappointing thing to see from you, man. I understand that it rubs you the wrong way, being anonymous, that someone who's in a position to do so won't consider risking their reach to the demoralized and destitute masses who desperately need his assistance in untangling the caustic and fickle position of men, that Jordan wouldn't go there. But this looks much more like Jordan practicing tact or prudence than it does, "he's obviously controlled opposition."

It still puzzles me that you get a great deal right, but you can't spot the pragmatic route Jordan takes.

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but you can't spot the pragmatic route Jordan takes.

I know exactly who he is and what his purpose is about.

Go check out who he's married to and how he's been struggling with depression and addiction.

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Psychiatrists have one of the highest suicide rates of all professions. I'm fully aware of what his family looks like. To go a little /x/ on you, energy, in either polar end, has influence upon those in proximity. When one absorbs so much negative energy, like a trauma surgeon or a psychiatrist, that tends to build up. This guy has been at it for decades. Calling him an addict has long been used to discredit his work to moralize young men. There were even rumors for a while, which I still subscribe to, that he was poisoned. I think what you're doing is attacking the messenger. His network effect ought to be defended. It sucks that you can only see the trees and not the forest. He does a great deal to help young men in a time when demoralization is rampant and it sucks to see you also suffering from demoralization.

I think you're smarter than this.

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His wife is jewishJordan is a minor progressive. He's just being a gate keeper for White men.

Can't find anything to support the jewish claim. Sorry.

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Was expecting this answer, yes.

I believe it...but still I wonder about getting the book...but if based on the so-called holocaust, I'd just as soon pass.

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Sounds like it was written by a jewish psychiatrist who's only fear after getting out from his German concentration camp is his God. While the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom this guy is likely just angry at God. Still a paperback copy is around $8. If you are really disappointed then chuck it after reading.

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Great advice and comment, thank-you.

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People are just going to keep pulling on the "he's jewish" anchor. Get the book, man. Don't let a bunch of confused, demoralized brainlets convince you Jordan's something people tell you that you don't like because someone's jealous of people with more success, who only really want to bring other people down to their level of misery.

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Thanks, believe me I'm not. I listen to him from time to time, he's just another tool, or source, like everything. And he's a smart guy.

Don't shoot the messenger is the thing. You can learn from anybody and everybody.

I can certainly read the book very objectively, I've been at this learning the truth thing for a very long time.

Appreciate your comment.

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Is his wife actually jew? I haven't heard that before.

I would suggest that being close to jews opens your eyes to a lot of things though. Personal experience speaking here. But it definitely limits your ability to do anything publicly while you're in a relationship like that. Kind of feels like you're a spy behind enemy lines once you start to figure it out.

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I am going to have to admit I had read that she is jewish but now that I actually searched I don't think she is.

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I mean it's a common tactic to discredit here it gets thrown around all the time. Thanks for looking into it.

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Peterson briefly considered touching on the JQ but walked it back. It's not worth it. How is he a gatekeeper for white men? Please explain. Let's hear your normalfag take on how we aren't employing enough idpol, how we won't displace a lot of people we don't want to live around us or how Peterson moralizing young men is undermined by him not making himself an easy target for the screeching labelfags that would rather dilute someone's voice than ask hard questions or have tough conversations. I'd love to hear your take on this, since you seem so well informed.

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If you want to follow a nebbish leftist with drug addiction issues go ahead.

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I take it you never understood the embedded wisdom of modern folk tales like Peter Parker's Uncle Ben.

With great power comes great responsibility.

This is a very, very easy thing to say when someone like you has no power.

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I’ve read it. Written by victor Frankl, a kike. The message is good, but it’s more propaganda about the holohoax. The book is essentially about how every struggle can be overcome by finding meaning in your struggle. For instance, if your wife dies, you can overcome the suffering by understanding that she would have suffered if you had died first, therefore you find meaning by believing it’s better that she died first, if that makes sense. Supposedly he learned all these lessons when he was in a concentration camp and had to find a will to stay alive. If you remove the holocaust parts of it it actually has a pretty good message about stoicism. That’s the craftiness of the Jew though, mixing truth with lies, or a very good message with propaganda in order to push a larger agenda

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Exactly the answer I was looking for, thank-you.

I'd be afraid the holocaust crap would rub off on me lol, I've been indoctrinated all my life.

But, if it's really really worth reading, please let me know (maybe you just did).

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I read the book a few years before I got redpilled about the Holocaust. The message about finding meaning in suffering really hit home for me and I feel like it has benefited my life. Don’t know how I would feel about it now that I know what I do. I think if you are the kind of person that can separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, then it is worth reading

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Thanks, yeah I really want to read it.

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Read Solzhenitsyn instead.

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Yeah, it's hard to get a complete English translation. Thanks.

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I listened to that audio book about 10 years ago. I didn’t draw any memorable lessons from it. Now that I’ve come around to be a card carrying Holocaust denier, I’ll give it another listen and submit a report of all the bullshit.

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Great!

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The fact that he survived the ‘death camp’ to then write a book tells me, it wasn’t a fucking death camp. The Germans went to all the trouble of catching him and getting him there, then didn’t do the thing that was the whole point of the place…according to the jooz.

After I bought the audiobook of ‘how to win friends and influence people’..a famous book. iTunes kept recommending ‘a mans search for meaning’. I took the bait. But I don’t think the two books were at all related. He didn’t make any friends at camp.

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Lol. Yeah I read that, great book (WIn Friends).

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Surprised one man isn't perfect?

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Juden Peterstein

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Peterson has his strong points and weak points....valuable truths and worthless lies...his insights and blindspots. Anything having to do with xtian crap, jews, and the globalists can be assumed to be outright BS or half-truths.

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He's a kike who along with Rogan and Shapiro define the right side of the Overton window in mainstream discourse.

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And the eye patch guy what's his face.