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Pureblood Vet here. Small disability which qualified for 100% VA healthcare. Still standing strong with a proud immune system since 2020 when this all began. Daily regimen of C, D and zinc. Tested positive twice in 2020 - quarantined by local health department - no symptoms. Went back to work and continued the daily grind with no problems.

My first VA appointment is soon to draw blood/labs for an annual that's way overdue and I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to go on record when the vax question comes up.

I'm obviously hesitant with the male history in my lineage tree having heart issues. Grandfather had a stroke early 50s, deceased. Father had hypertensive cardiovascular disease early 60s, deceased. Uncle had myocarditis on a healthy lifestyle early 70s, deseased.

Knowing this history and how these mRNA vaccines cause inflammation issues, as well as all the politicized mandates in healthcare - I'm skeptical how to approach the topic with the doctor and going on record being labeled as a conscientious objector or hesitant. I know there's a coding system in place. I've heard reports of denial of care in other health care systems due to unvaccinated staus.

There's a male nurse there I've always had that takes labs and shoots the shit with me prior to the robotic doctor coming in. We've talked about guns and politics before, seems to be a good guy/eyes open red-pilled a bit, but he is in their system still.

My thoughts are to chat him up while he's doing labs. Get a feel for what the hell has been going on in this local clinic since this all began. The followup with the doc will be a few days later.

I really don't know where the VA stands right now and if I get coded in anyway that jeopardizes my care benefits then I'm looking at giving it up to go privatized plans or just put it all in gods hands.

Any thoughts or insight appreciated. Thanks.

Update down bellow somewhere

Pureblood Vet here. Small disability which qualified for 100% VA healthcare. Still standing strong with a proud immune system since 2020 when this all began. Daily regimen of C, D and zinc. Tested positive twice in 2020 - quarantined by local health department - no symptoms. Went back to work and continued the daily grind with no problems. My first VA appointment is soon to draw blood/labs for an annual that's way overdue and I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to go on record when the vax question comes up. I'm obviously hesitant with the male history in my lineage tree having heart issues. Grandfather had a stroke early 50s, deceased. Father had hypertensive cardiovascular disease early 60s, deceased. Uncle had myocarditis on a healthy lifestyle early 70s, deseased. Knowing this history and how these mRNA vaccines cause inflammation issues, as well as all the politicized mandates in healthcare - I'm skeptical how to approach the topic with the doctor and going on record being labeled as a conscientious objector or hesitant. I know there's a coding system in place. I've heard reports of denial of care in other health care systems due to unvaccinated staus. There's a male nurse there I've always had that takes labs and shoots the shit with me prior to the robotic doctor coming in. We've talked about guns and politics before, seems to be a good guy/eyes open red-pilled a bit, but he is in their system still. My thoughts are to chat him up while he's doing labs. Get a feel for what the hell has been going on in this local clinic since this all began. The followup with the doc will be a few days later. I really don't know where the VA stands right now and if I get coded in anyway that jeopardizes my care benefits then I'm looking at giving it up to go privatized plans or just put it all in gods hands. Any thoughts or insight appreciated. Thanks. **Update down bellow somewhere**

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[–] • 6 pts

tell them its an outrage how minorities are constantly left behind in a supposedly free country and you wont go for the shot until every nog trannie and fag are vaxxed as a privileged white male you are humbly giving up your place in line until your dream of true equality is fulfilled.

[–] • 5 pts

I've refused the vax twice at the VA in Florida. I told them that I'm waiting for the human trial to be over. The last time the nurse acted offended. I told her that I can't breathe with a mask on and she let me take it off. The receptionist acted like I was trying to kill her grandma when I took it off to breathe. The Dr. Doesn't seem to care and we both took our masks off in private. Keep in mind everyone still there is triple vaxxed. The nurses are coached to pose questions that will get you red flagged. You're 100%. Fuck them. You're ENTITLED to health care. An illegitimate fraudulent administration doesn't have the authority to order you to take an experimental drug!

[–] • 5 pts

Don't lie. Tell them you have natural immunity. If they say the jab is safe and effective, tell them to look at the VAERS database and then ask them why the pharma companies need immunity from lawsuit. Then point out that the jab does not stop your from getting it or spreading it. When they say it reduces symptoms, tell them I already had it twice so I am not worried about the symptoms. You have a right to be treated. They cannot threaten your benefits. The 5th circuit has put a stay on mandates. Medical treatment mandates are a violation of human rights.

[–] • 3 pts

My “thought”...tell them you’re fully vaccinated. If they want to see proof, show them proof.

[–] • 2 pts

I could show them a bullshit card that's forged...then if they actually research the batch numbers I'm compromised again. Yea I've thought of that - they'll seek out proof, even if I said I went and got it, "somewhere".

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[–] • 0 pt

Fancy username. I wonder where you got the idea.

[–] • 3 pts

One of the times my wife was right: Just tell them you got the J&J. That should be the end of it. Just a square filler.

[–] • 0 pt

Square filler?

[–] • 2 pts

They ask a lot of questions, as far as I know you don't have to answer any of them. They ask how you feel emotionally, and if you have firearms. Just say "I don't answer those questions."

Worst they do is refuse you service, and I am under the impression they wont.

I don't really know for sure though. Would really like to know what happens to you, so I know what to expect as well.

[–] • 1 pt

Me 3

[–] • 2 pts

----OP UPDATE-----

So I went and took labs today - the male nurse I spoke of was still there. I haven't seen him since December 2019, right before this all kicked off. We spoke on vaccine EUA - how there's no approved version. He chimed in relevant insight - how high levels of vitamin D and natural immunity were marginalizing symptoms and how politicized it's become. We spoke on my male family heart history and he agreed completely how the vaccine complications would be unnecessary risk. On survival rates...my own immunity and still standing strong and I started to sense the defeat in his eyes.

I then commented on if he was still here working then that means he got the vax...he said, hesitating, "Yep, I had no choice the entire medical industry was mandating it, there was nowhere I could go". I empathized with him for putting food on the table for his kids, it seems his wife was pro-vaxx and leveraged him, but I witheld my high ground position. He's a good guy and he already committed to the choice... I just couldn't rub it in.

I changed the subject to active duty getting discharged with less than honorable and losing benefits, we shared the same disgust in the situation. I asked him if they'll pressure me to take it, he promised no. I asked if I'll get flagged in any way, or coded as a risk, he stressed no, and that I wouldn't lose my benefits in any way.

I think Im due to go in Friday for the followup with the robotic doctor. I haven't decided yet.

[–] • 1 pt

Thanks for the update. I have spoken with nurses that quit rather than get the jab. Thank God I retired from nursing before this happened. The illegitimate fraudulent administration will do a big push to force it on everyone in 2022. They know their time is running out. When I see Fauci on TV I realize that I am capable of killing. What their doing to kids is a war crime. The Government. The press. The CDC and WHO have all lied about every aspect of the virus. Its about control. Not safety. I still expect the VA to betray us. Plan for it.

[–] • 2 pts

Just say you weren't vaccinated and don't intend on getting it. The VA will still treat you.

[–] • 1 pt

But for how long?

[–] • 1 pt

Or if they're already flagging conscious objectors already...why I'm asking how to proceed, or not to.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

I'd avoid the answer until you can't avoid it anymore; don't do anything that would give them an excuse to pull your benefits- they're already threatening seniors with their S.S and vax status. I'd say something like "I got some sort of shot a while back- I don't remember".

[–] • 1 pt

Im pretty up on current events. Any politician that blackmailed SS with the vax would be national news

[–] • 1 pt

Just say I'm going to get the VAX right after CDC employees get theirs

[–] • 1 pt

My father was required to show his papers when he went for his last VA appointment.

[–] • 1 pt

I go to the VA. My doctor suggested it once. Never brought up again. The VA isn't pushing it at all. They do require masks and will give you one at the door.

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