Exactly. The first and last time I ever went to one was like a year or two before the Branch Covidian hysteria. Full of prissy college kiddies, artphags, and trendy-trendsters....with staff acting like snooty waiters at a dress-code restaurant. Oh yeah, the coffee sucked, and not in a good way, plus waaaay overpriced. While there might be coffee shops that sell decent coffee, I greatly doubt even one could match my Kona coffee.