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So my military has decided to make the shot mandatory. It's not yet fully known when the cutoff date is, but I've heard of people in other brigades being ordered to get it on December 6th even though, like I said, officially it's not known when the requirement officially comes to pass.

So there's two options, because getting the shot isn't one of them.

  1. Dishonest: get a fake pass, get by for another six months until you need a booster and who knows if you need some kind of digital proof by then. That would raise red flags as to why you don't want the booster which will be required. Or maybe it'll be illegal to get it outside of the military. So you're buying yourself six months at most.

  2. Honest: Say no and hope they let me go on at least a general discharge. Worst case I get a monetary fine which will be in the thousands and then again a fine and again until they give me disciplinary arrest and then military jail with dishonorable discharge for disobeying orders.

I'm one of less than 20 in my company (150ish soldiers) who aren't vaxxed and I'm thinking most of them will take it. A few might do a fake pass.

Are there any options I'm missing? Religious exemption doesn't exist here. Laywer is pretty much pointless and just a hassle at this point, you wouldn't sue in communist Russia so why bother here. Another thing with the fake pass, you will be used for corona help centers and so will end up contact tracing which I can't morally support and that might lead to rounding people up like in Australia.

My wife says to just refuse and take on whatever punishment. We're Christian so she's probably right. Getting a fake pass is like half cucking because I don't have faith that God will somehow get me through. On the other hand you wouldn't put it past someone in commie Russia to fake a pass 50 years ago to avoid jail.

But I think she's right, we need people to stand up and say no.

Oh another thing, if I get myself another 6 months and evrything goes well I'd be able to finish getting an MOS which would be of great use in a civil war.

So my military has decided to make the shot mandatory. It's not yet fully known when the cutoff date is, but I've heard of people in other brigades being ordered to get it on December 6th even though, like I said, officially it's not known when the requirement officially comes to pass. So there's two options, because getting the shot isn't one of them. 1. Dishonest: get a fake pass, get by for another six months until you need a booster and who knows if you need some kind of digital proof by then. That would raise red flags as to why you don't want the booster which will be required. Or maybe it'll be illegal to get it outside of the military. So you're buying yourself six months at most. 2. Honest: Say no and hope they let me go on at least a general discharge. Worst case I get a monetary fine which will be in the thousands and then again a fine and again until they give me disciplinary arrest and then military jail with dishonorable discharge for disobeying orders. I'm one of less than 20 in my company (150ish soldiers) who aren't vaxxed and I'm thinking most of them will take it. A few might do a fake pass. Are there any options I'm missing? Religious exemption doesn't exist here. Laywer is pretty much pointless and just a hassle at this point, you wouldn't sue in communist Russia so why bother here. Another thing with the fake pass, you will be used for corona help centers and so will end up contact tracing which I can't morally support and that might lead to rounding people up like in Australia. My wife says to just refuse and take on whatever punishment. We're Christian so she's probably right. Getting a fake pass is like half cucking because I don't have faith that God will somehow get me through. On the other hand you wouldn't put it past someone in commie Russia to fake a pass 50 years ago to avoid jail. But I think she's right, we need people to stand up and say no. Oh another thing, if I get myself another 6 months and evrything goes well I'd be able to finish getting an MOS which would be of great use in a civil war.

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[–] • 18 pts

Make them fire you

[–] • 5 pts

Simple and to the point, thanks. Got lots going through my head right now.

[–] • 10 pts (edited )

Dude, a few months ago, at great expense and stress, I moved from a place that was totally insane with virus rules, to a place 4500 miles away where life is normal. It was a pain in the ass, but my life is better than ever, in every way. The move wasn't fun, but the end result absolutely justified it. Imagine the shit our ancestors went through..

[–] • 4 pts

I am envious. I am very interested in where life is better so that I can move there ASAP

[–] • 3 pts

The impossible life in Britain in the 1700's for those without the king's patronage was why millions got on ships to America. You are a modern pioneer.

[–] • 2 pts

Doing the same thing. In the middle of the move at this moment. I quit my job because i would not give them a clot shot status. In retro, should have made them fire me. In the normal place were moving to, have already secured a job. Not saying it is easy, but it can be done.

[–] • 2 pts

I did that one year ago, CA to TX. It's night and day difference. Haven't had to deal with any jewflu rules for 6 months now.

[–] • 0 pt

Where did you move from/to?

[–] • 3 pts

I'm in your position and I simply quit without explaining why. But I quit exactly on the date they required proof of the vaxx.

[–] • 2 pts

Yep, same here. I even got 3 more email after my resignation asking why I quit and would I expand on why I resigned.

[–] • 1 pt

In the military you have a contract that you can't quit though. That's the thing, on top of them being able to crush your life in just about every way if they want to - monetary fines, jail and a criminal record.

[–] • 0 pt

Careful with the dishonorable discharge, it might make it very difficult for you to find a job in private sector. Are you in Europe?

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

Military discharge only matters if you admit to being ex-military. Might keep you from working for government, but not private sector. Speaking from experience. In the little box on applications, I always said no. Never once bit me in the ass.

Don't ask, don't tell. Learned that from the military.

[–] • 1 pt

Yep, central western europe. Don't want to doxx myself though.