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So my military has decided to make the shot mandatory. It's not yet fully known when the cutoff date is, but I've heard of people in other brigades being ordered to get it on December 6th even though, like I said, officially it's not known when the requirement officially comes to pass.

So there's two options, because getting the shot isn't one of them.

  1. Dishonest: get a fake pass, get by for another six months until you need a booster and who knows if you need some kind of digital proof by then. That would raise red flags as to why you don't want the booster which will be required. Or maybe it'll be illegal to get it outside of the military. So you're buying yourself six months at most.

  2. Honest: Say no and hope they let me go on at least a general discharge. Worst case I get a monetary fine which will be in the thousands and then again a fine and again until they give me disciplinary arrest and then military jail with dishonorable discharge for disobeying orders.

I'm one of less than 20 in my company (150ish soldiers) who aren't vaxxed and I'm thinking most of them will take it. A few might do a fake pass.

Are there any options I'm missing? Religious exemption doesn't exist here. Laywer is pretty much pointless and just a hassle at this point, you wouldn't sue in communist Russia so why bother here. Another thing with the fake pass, you will be used for corona help centers and so will end up contact tracing which I can't morally support and that might lead to rounding people up like in Australia.

My wife says to just refuse and take on whatever punishment. We're Christian so she's probably right. Getting a fake pass is like half cucking because I don't have faith that God will somehow get me through. On the other hand you wouldn't put it past someone in commie Russia to fake a pass 50 years ago to avoid jail.

But I think she's right, we need people to stand up and say no.

Oh another thing, if I get myself another 6 months and evrything goes well I'd be able to finish getting an MOS which would be of great use in a civil war.

So my military has decided to make the shot mandatory. It's not yet fully known when the cutoff date is, but I've heard of people in other brigades being ordered to get it on December 6th even though, like I said, officially it's not known when the requirement officially comes to pass. So there's two options, because getting the shot isn't one of them. 1. Dishonest: get a fake pass, get by for another six months until you need a booster and who knows if you need some kind of digital proof by then. That would raise red flags as to why you don't want the booster which will be required. Or maybe it'll be illegal to get it outside of the military. So you're buying yourself six months at most. 2. Honest: Say no and hope they let me go on at least a general discharge. Worst case I get a monetary fine which will be in the thousands and then again a fine and again until they give me disciplinary arrest and then military jail with dishonorable discharge for disobeying orders. I'm one of less than 20 in my company (150ish soldiers) who aren't vaxxed and I'm thinking most of them will take it. A few might do a fake pass. Are there any options I'm missing? Religious exemption doesn't exist here. Laywer is pretty much pointless and just a hassle at this point, you wouldn't sue in communist Russia so why bother here. Another thing with the fake pass, you will be used for corona help centers and so will end up contact tracing which I can't morally support and that might lead to rounding people up like in Australia. My wife says to just refuse and take on whatever punishment. We're Christian so she's probably right. Getting a fake pass is like half cucking because I don't have faith that God will somehow get me through. On the other hand you wouldn't put it past someone in commie Russia to fake a pass 50 years ago to avoid jail. But I think she's right, we need people to stand up and say no. Oh another thing, if I get myself another 6 months and evrything goes well I'd be able to finish getting an MOS which would be of great use in a civil war.

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[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

This is not happening in a vacuum. The tyrants are trying to control as many people as possible, and are only emboldened by everyone who agrees (or pretends to agree).

[–] • 2 pts

Those with families, are easily controlled.

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The tyrants are trying to control as many people as possible

OR

it's just yet anther vaccine in a long history of vaccines... in the past this was never a matter of internet debate, you just got on with it because nobody was dumb enough to voluntarily die of polio or measles.

Now, everyone is a biological warfare expert, it's a fucking sad joke.

The OP may or may not get sick, he may or may not die, but what is fairly certain is that he will get browbeaten into going along with the Poal Clown Show and lose his job/career over essentially nothing, nobody here actually gives a shit other than they got another random to agree with their tinfoil drama party.

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Funny thing is, if the vax was merely offered to everyone and no lockdowns or masks and the military had to take it no-one would question it. But what makes over 30% of the population that hasn't taken it sceptic is that it is forced down our throat, in record time, with very little testing, adverse effects more than all the other vaccines over the last 30 years combined (some 2.5million cases I believe), and of course lockdowns, curfews, and masks. All of which is changed at will. Doesn't seem like it's just another vax. So I get your point, but taking peoples right to go to church or buy bread at the bakery over a virus with 0.some percent kill rate is just ridiculous.

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in record time

because whether you believe it or not, hospitals were rapidly being overwhelmed with patients, and many of the early ones died, because this thing spread so fast. One minute it was in China, the next it was everywhere. That is extremely fast for a virus. So yes there was a bit of a rush to get everyone vaccinated. If you've got no bed capacity, then people would have started dying for lack of basic health care, this was a well understood fear in government.

Trump fucked up by going out of his way to downplay this disaster, because all he cared about was his Economy, and he thought if he could keep a lid on this then he'd look good and get re-elected. So he ponced about without a mask but he found out you could catch this pretty easily, (the same with Boris in the UK, he acted in the similar way, shaking hands with everyone). You can bet the treatments they both got were way better than what the proles would receive.

Now we have more of a grip on how to handle it, so there are the same spikes in cases but fewer deaths.

If you are very careful then you probably won't get it, and you'd be very unlikely to die from it, but by all accounts it's unpleasant and a bad case is horrifically bad that you just want to die rather than carry on. To me this is a no brainer, I don't like getting sick, and if my job was on the line I'd be kicking down doors to get it sorted because I really like job security even more.

Yes some people are getting side effects, some of those are actually quite serious, but we are talking about a global effort involving billions of people here, if someone didn't grow a third head and turn purple just by the law of averages, then I'd be surprised. I've looked at the odds of some of these things and to me they are low enough not to be an issue for me.

But you really need to look at the published numbers yourself, not the LaLaLand exposé's on Facebook, people whose job it is to work this out are dull people and are probably not working for Lizard Overlords, despite what 99 totally convincing bitchute videos say. Life has always been dull and uneventful, and it will continue to be so.

I think if this had happened in Regan's time, it wouldn't be an issue. But America has a Marxist fuctard in command, niggers are getting uppity and jew media is running everything else, so now everyone is afraid. And fear always creates bad decisions.

Just imagine if you were President, what would you have done differently to keep White people safe? If it's much the same thing then think in those terms, don't let other people's fear control you.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

another vaccine

False. This is experimental gene therapy.

What is the under-reporting factor (URF) for adverse effects? The shots are not safe.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

technology moves on, we can't keep scraping the pus from cows and hoping for the best

if you don't want cutting edge health care then here's a list of cults you can join that ban it http://childrenshealthcare.org/?page_id=195

Correct, they are not 'safe', that's listed in the advisory for aspirin too, nothing is safe, not even water. try making a rational decision about what safe means for you

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I wouldn't call it the "poal clown show" to refuse, rather being pragmatic. And I sure as hell wouldn't call getting the jab "nothing".

[–] • 0 pt

wouldn't call getting the jab "nothing".

that's your decision, I'm just pointing out that Poal is very much a minority is thinking this is some NWO thing.

I really could think of more pressing matters for the Right to concern itself with, than this.

My prediction is that this will all blow over in a few years, but the lasting legacy is that we will all look like tinfoil lunatics because of the hysterical fuss we made over it.