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So my military has decided to make the shot mandatory. It's not yet fully known when the cutoff date is, but I've heard of people in other brigades being ordered to get it on December 6th even though, like I said, officially it's not known when the requirement officially comes to pass.

So there's two options, because getting the shot isn't one of them.

  1. Dishonest: get a fake pass, get by for another six months until you need a booster and who knows if you need some kind of digital proof by then. That would raise red flags as to why you don't want the booster which will be required. Or maybe it'll be illegal to get it outside of the military. So you're buying yourself six months at most.

  2. Honest: Say no and hope they let me go on at least a general discharge. Worst case I get a monetary fine which will be in the thousands and then again a fine and again until they give me disciplinary arrest and then military jail with dishonorable discharge for disobeying orders.

I'm one of less than 20 in my company (150ish soldiers) who aren't vaxxed and I'm thinking most of them will take it. A few might do a fake pass.

Are there any options I'm missing? Religious exemption doesn't exist here. Laywer is pretty much pointless and just a hassle at this point, you wouldn't sue in communist Russia so why bother here. Another thing with the fake pass, you will be used for corona help centers and so will end up contact tracing which I can't morally support and that might lead to rounding people up like in Australia.

My wife says to just refuse and take on whatever punishment. We're Christian so she's probably right. Getting a fake pass is like half cucking because I don't have faith that God will somehow get me through. On the other hand you wouldn't put it past someone in commie Russia to fake a pass 50 years ago to avoid jail.

But I think she's right, we need people to stand up and say no.

Oh another thing, if I get myself another 6 months and evrything goes well I'd be able to finish getting an MOS which would be of great use in a civil war.

So my military has decided to make the shot mandatory. It's not yet fully known when the cutoff date is, but I've heard of people in other brigades being ordered to get it on December 6th even though, like I said, officially it's not known when the requirement officially comes to pass. So there's two options, because getting the shot isn't one of them. 1. Dishonest: get a fake pass, get by for another six months until you need a booster and who knows if you need some kind of digital proof by then. That would raise red flags as to why you don't want the booster which will be required. Or maybe it'll be illegal to get it outside of the military. So you're buying yourself six months at most. 2. Honest: Say no and hope they let me go on at least a general discharge. Worst case I get a monetary fine which will be in the thousands and then again a fine and again until they give me disciplinary arrest and then military jail with dishonorable discharge for disobeying orders. I'm one of less than 20 in my company (150ish soldiers) who aren't vaxxed and I'm thinking most of them will take it. A few might do a fake pass. Are there any options I'm missing? Religious exemption doesn't exist here. Laywer is pretty much pointless and just a hassle at this point, you wouldn't sue in communist Russia so why bother here. Another thing with the fake pass, you will be used for corona help centers and so will end up contact tracing which I can't morally support and that might lead to rounding people up like in Australia. My wife says to just refuse and take on whatever punishment. We're Christian so she's probably right. Getting a fake pass is like half cucking because I don't have faith that God will somehow get me through. On the other hand you wouldn't put it past someone in commie Russia to fake a pass 50 years ago to avoid jail. But I think she's right, we need people to stand up and say no. Oh another thing, if I get myself another 6 months and evrything goes well I'd be able to finish getting an MOS which would be of great use in a civil war.

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Careful with the dishonorable discharge, it might make it very difficult for you to find a job in private sector. Are you in Europe?

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Military discharge only matters if you admit to being ex-military. Might keep you from working for government, but not private sector. Speaking from experience. In the little box on applications, I always said no. Never once bit me in the ass.

Don't ask, don't tell. Learned that from the military.

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rom working for government, but not private sector. Speaking from experience. In the little box on applications, I always said no. Never once bit m

Good tip and I kinda figured it probably isn't as much of a drawback as some make it seem. I'll never work gov again anyway.

We both learned our lessons. Good luck! Could just ask for a discharge, it may work.

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Depends in what sector you want to work in. I'm from Europe and OP said he is as well and if you want to work in Security, what is what most of ex-military would go for, background checks are needed for getting a license and for start of each employment, and having a military background is an easy way to get some high end well paid contracts. I'm also ex military.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I lived in Britain, working for government. Then military. A bit later, I got hired by the World Trade Center of New Orleans. Had to explain the huge gaps in my employment. Told them I'd been staying home taking care of my sickly, now deceased mother. Got the job.

Mom was delighted.

[–] 1 pt

Yep, central western europe. Don't want to doxx myself though.

[–] 1 pt

Just wanted to let you know that if you are considering working in Security after you leave having an dishonorable discharge might not work well for you since they do pre employment background checks, at least where I am.