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Morning.

Just a Turkeyday Ethics discussion.

If there is one, what is the Virtue from which all other virtues stem?

I often think that it’s humility. Whenever I’m fucking up, if I try and recenter my decisions around humility, it usually works itself out. This could be my shitty personality in particular or it could be fundamental. I dunno. I can only live inside this skull at the moment.

Curious to hear from you.

I wish you a pleasant and peaceful day, wherever you are, and if you’re alone, please know that you’re being prayed for.

Morning. Just a Turkeyday Ethics discussion. If there is one, what is the Virtue from which all other virtues stem? I often think that it’s humility. Whenever I’m fucking up, if I try and recenter my decisions around humility, it usually works itself out. This could be my shitty personality in particular or it could be fundamental. I dunno. I can only live inside this skull at the moment. Curious to hear from you. I wish you a pleasant and peaceful day, wherever you are, and if you’re alone, please know that you’re being prayed for.

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I don't have a good long explanation for why, but I probably vote for honesty as I regard truth as the highest value.

I am interested in humility though, since I grow up in an atheistic environment and to be honest we atheists are usually not particularly humble or seem to value it highly.

How do you learn to be humble?

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involves submitting onesself to God and to properly understand one's place. This does not mean perpetual depression about one's lack of worth, but to know our limitations and our strengths.

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This. Without self honesty all other virtues become a matter of luck.

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I think one can be honestly evil. Especially with regard to scientific achievement. Science is based on honesty, which actually makes it incredibly effective and dangerous. Imagine if science were based on humility!

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I imagine that if humility was required by scientists we would still have science today.

You and I both know that science has been corrupted and subverted by greed pride and many other sins.

Science as we knew it is dead and gone

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I think pure science is humble.

Science doesn't say it knows everything, pure science is very clear about what it does not know.

I mean yea, science could theoretically lead to nuclear war that wipes us all out which would not be good. I am not sure about how more humilty would solve that though.