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Are all vaccines distributed to the people via western health authorities bad? I'm not talking about mRNA injections, but traditional vaccines.

My guess would be that some are legitimately beneficial while others are not. Are there any mainstream vaccines that should be avoided? Are there any mainstream vaccines that most people should get?

Are all vaccines distributed to the people via western health authorities bad? I'm not talking about mRNA injections, but traditional vaccines. My guess would be that some are legitimately beneficial while others are not. Are there any mainstream vaccines that should be avoided? Are there any mainstream vaccines that most people should get?

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[–] • 28 pts

I wasn't anti-vaxx.

I am now. 100%.

[–] • 4 pts

I think it was late 2018, maybe early 2019 that I saw a really strong push against anti-vaxxers on the Reddit, in response to no real news on anything.

Prior to that I was pretty agnostic on vaccinations, never really having thought about them too much before. But seeing that push, out of the blue, in relations to no significant news event whatsoever...

Really makes ya think.

[–] • 1 pt

I seem to vaguely remember that, but that was in the time I had abandoned reddit other than the technical subs. Even those are worthless now.

[–] • 1 pt

I still go to reddit and listen to NPR. Gotta remember to expose yourself to NormieThink every once in a while.

[–] • 2 pts

Before Covis I had some basic trust in the medical system to adequately weigh risks. I trusted them to provide a better assessment then I probably would myself based on their expertise. So I was not antivax. After seeing this absolute abandonment of reason by the medical hive mind I now have lost all faith in them.

I won't be injecting anything into myself or my kids without personally reviewing the pros/cons and making the decision.

[–] • 0 pt

My last trip to a physician was just for a yearly checkup. I could have walked out of there with a number of prescriptions and shots, none of which they could fully explain to me why I needed other than "people of your age..."

Well, people of my age are cranky old men. Fuck off doc, I don't want your snake oil.

[–] • 1 pt

Same. I think there is a lot of propaganda and misinformation that has been pushed onto us all since before we were born and now the mRNA vaccines have started bringing to light the fact that the anti-vaxxer movement was right all along.

[–] [deleted] • 12 pts

Won't ever allow a needle near me again.

[–] • 9 pts

I believe some are actually quite effective at preventing dangerous diseases.

That being said, I would rather die than give a pharmaceutical company one cent of my money.

[–] • 7 pts

When you do research on them all, you find some pretty unsettling stuff.

[–] [deleted] • 6 pts

Take away vaccine injury immunity for the manufacturers and there will be no more vaccines.

[–] • 0 pt

Yeah, but there is no tetanus shot anymore. Now is Dtap, mixed with a diphtheria and pertussis vaccine.

[–] • 5 pts

Ask the Amish the ones who don't vax... then watch the follow up of vaxxed where it shows children who have no vaccines and how incredibly healthy they are. If you vaxx the shit out of your child you basically are saying you trust man more then god

[–] • 5 pts

Sanitation not vaccination is what cures/prevents disease. Most of the propaganda they spew about disease is from when cities like New York and London didn’t have running water and tossed their poop in the streets.

Even without the mRNA vaccine, vaccines still have DNA in them. Which will combine with your babies DNA. I believe Stem cell pioneer Theresa Deisher PhD (PhD in Fetal DNA Fragments contaminants and retroviruses in vaccines) speaks on this. And the DNA is from aborted babies. Mostly black.

Keep your kids healthy and their immune system intact and they will be just fine. Not to mention some diseases like measles helps your body learn how to fight cancer.

Sure if you poop in the same water you drink from then yeah measles will be deadly.

Check out Forest Maready’s books. Dr. Susan Humphreys or Del Bigtree’s podcast. There is way to much info to try and type on my phone. Just stay away from them all until you have done your research.

[–] • 4 pts

Tetanus shots have been effective. Lockjaw is very unpleasant. A scratch from a rusty nail? Go get a tetanus shot.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

Tetanus shots have been effective.

lol, how do you know? There are 30 cases of tetanus in the US yearly. You're more likely to win the lottery than to get tetanus.

[–] • 3 pts

Yep, there has been an 89% reduction in tetanus infections since the advent of the vaccine, since 1990.

https://ourworldindata.org/tetanus

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Given how rare tetanus is, I'm willing to bet you're more likely to die from the vaccine than from the disease.

[–] • 0 pt

Why do you trust this data ? Who told you that it can't be manipulated to suit a need ?

[–] • 2 pts

Tetanus is easily treated with medicine. If you ended up with tetanus and got the vaccine the same day you would die before the vaccine started working. If it worked at all. Tetanus can not live in oxygen only in animal manure. Mainly horse. So if you do get a puncture wound from a suspect place let the wound bleed and opt for the meds instead.

[–] • 2 pts

Tetanus isn't due to rust, it is due to deep puncture woulds, which is why it is often associated with nails

[–] • 3 pts

Every puncture wound I ever experienced was always followed immediately by a tetanus shot, doctors orders. I never associated rust with tetanus. Just dirty wounds. Rusty nails are dirty.

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[–] • 1 pt

My understanding is tetnus is a bacteria that forms on soil laden rust, and does not survive on skin surface, hence a rusty nail is the perfect transmission source.

[–] • 0 pt

I could be wrong, but I think rust doesn't matter.

It's just that when a lot of people get a random deep puncture wound, it happens to be an old nail, which is usually rusty

[–] • 0 pt

There is some new evidence that after the initial shots the boosters aren't needed anyways.

So you don't need to get repeated shots and wonder if they are "mistakenly" giving you mRNA instead.

[–] • 0 pt

When I was a kid I stepped on numerous rusty nails and cut myself with old dirty cans, rusty knives and God alone knows what else. I never did anything for any of this except let the cut bleed until it formed a scab. Guess what? No tetanus. The fear is a lot bigger than the risk.

[–] • 2 pts

It's largely unnecessary. If you actually look back 200 years you'll see that sanitation actually had most diseases in decline and at very low transmission rates before vaccines were introduced.

Is there a place for vaccines? Yes but not like how we try to vaccinate against everything right now.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Yes. Hepatitis B only affects junkies and prostitutes. Babies are neither junkies, nor prostitutes and do not need a hepatitis b vaccine.

[–] • 1 pt

I'll never take another

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