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If a higher power existed then that higher power would have the ability to persuade someone that the higher power did indeed exist, and would be able to point out objective evidences and proofs for such that a blind man would not have perceived previously, that is what happened to me. You just would not have satisfactorily been able to prove those things sufficiently to a second party.

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If a higher power existed then that higher power would have the ability to persuade someone that the higher power did indeed exist,

So, why is it that non-believers exist then?

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Right, to us we would reason that way, but the thing is, it doesn't matter how we reason or what we feel is logical, because we are dealing with an uncreated and infinite being.

We would no more understand the counsels and plans of a creator than an animal would be privy to what we as humans are up to.

Why not go by, or check into, what many believe is the revealed mind of this being, the scriptures of the old and new testament.

I used to reason thus, that God could be understood, and wanted to be understood, by the same reasoning faculties that we ourselves have but it leads to error, it used to confuse me a lot. (It's understandable that we would think this way because we reason that if God created us then we could understand Him by the reasoning faculties that are in us, that are a reflection of Himself, that he endowed us with - but our minds are darkened, according to what the scriptures teach and are no safe guides.)

Why this happened, or why God permitted such a condition, we as finite beings don't really know.

But the objective guidebook (if indeed we accept it as such), says "These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes."

If we push the possibility aside that there is no God (but our conscience says otherwise) it is an unspeakable loss if we end up wrong, we miss out on His message for us, and maybe end up dealing with much worse.

Not trying to sound all preachy or self-righteous I'm mainly saying what I went through, and discovered, and am just exhorting that everyone seek an answer for themselves. And not to be put out of the way because things don't seem to make sense to us. The greatest theologians and most godly men that ever lived were the Reformers of the 16th and 17th centuries and they are a sure guide to safety in spiritual things and eternal security. They were intensely logical, they taught logic in their seminaries.

I'm sure I sound confusing, there are much abler people out there that can explain it all much better.

Right, to us we would reason that way, but the thing is, it doesn't matter how we reason or what we feel is logical, because we are dealing with an uncreated and infinite being. We would no more understand the counsels and plans of a creator than an animal would be privy to what we as humans are up to. Why not go by, or check into, what many believe is the revealed mind of this being, the scriptures of the old and new testament. I used to reason thus, that God could be understood, and wanted to be understood, by the same reasoning faculties that we ourselves have but it leads to error, it used to confuse me a lot. (It's understandable that we would think this way because we reason that if God created us then we could understand Him by the reasoning faculties that are in us, that are a reflection of Himself, that he endowed us with - but our minds are darkened, according to what the scriptures teach and are no safe guides.) Why this happened, or why God permitted such a condition, we as finite beings don't really know. But the objective guidebook (if indeed we accept it as such), says "These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes." If we push the possibility aside that there is no God (but our conscience says otherwise) it is an unspeakable loss if we end up wrong, we miss out on His message for us, and maybe end up dealing with much worse. Not trying to sound all preachy or self-righteous I'm mainly saying what I went through, and discovered, and am just exhorting that everyone seek an answer for themselves. And not to be put out of the way because things don't seem to make sense to us. The greatest theologians and most godly men that ever lived were the Reformers of the 16th and 17th centuries and they are a sure guide to safety in spiritual things and eternal security. They were intensely logical, they taught logic in their seminaries. I'm sure I sound confusing, there are much abler people out there that can explain it all much better.

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