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I was talking to someone yesterday from church. They had mentioned that because I have a wicked sinful heart, that any and all external acts of benevolence to others was for nothing, and that I was still a terrible person at heart. The idea is that I am over compensating for being a terrible person by appearing to be nice. Essentially, his argument was that even though I had to be nice to him, I should never assume that the generosity will be recognized or awarded. This made me think, clearly me helping others is falling on deaf ears, which then makes me think why should I bother?

I was talking to someone yesterday from church. They had mentioned that because I have a wicked sinful heart, that any and all external acts of benevolence to others was for nothing, and that I was still a terrible person at heart. The idea is that I am over compensating for being a terrible person by appearing to be nice. Essentially, his argument was that even though I had to be nice to him, I should never assume that the generosity will be recognized or awarded. This made me think, clearly me helping others is falling on deaf ears, which then makes me think why should I bother?

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Objective truth is all that matters ultimately. Suppose the doctrine of original sin to be true and that your good deeds may benefit your fellow man but won't make you righteous in the sight of God or do anything towards obtaining his favor because He has set out another way for that...if that is true then your wishes and logic and assumptions and reasoning can't change that fact if it is indeed a fact, and why can't it be? Of course it can be.

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objective truth about something that you cannot know definitively if it exists

You cannot know for certain if a higher power exists, so there is no such thing as "objective truth" about it.

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If a higher power existed then that higher power would have the ability to persuade someone that the higher power did indeed exist, and would be able to point out objective evidences and proofs for such that a blind man would not have perceived previously, that is what happened to me. You just would not have satisfactorily been able to prove those things sufficiently to a second party.

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If a higher power existed then that higher power would have the ability to persuade someone that the higher power did indeed exist,

So, why is it that non-believers exist then?