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EDIT... EARTH SPINNING ABOUT 1000 MPH... STILL SAME PROBLEMS JUST NOT AS BAD

And then it adds 500 to 600 mph at that altitude? So with the rotation of the earth its going 2200 mph then adds 600 mph approximately and maintains that speed to go faster then the earth which is 30k feet below it is on a much larger sphere at 30k up? So jets at 30k are actually going 2800 mph to go faster then the spinning earth and when they go opposite direction of the spin? What is going on with that?

EDIT... EARTH SPINNING ABOUT 1000 MPH... STILL SAME PROBLEMS JUST NOT AS BAD And then it adds 500 to 600 mph at that altitude? So with the rotation of the earth its going 2200 mph then adds 600 mph approximately and maintains that speed to go faster then the earth which is 30k feet below it is on a much larger sphere at 30k up? So jets at 30k are actually going 2800 mph to go faster then the spinning earth and when they go opposite direction of the spin? What is going on with that?

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The atmosphere rotates with the earth. Apart from normal gust and breezes (and the Coriolis effect) airplanes plow happily along in the atmosphere. Rotating along with the earth surface. So sorry French guy, you can’t rise up in a balloon, wait for the earth to rotate under you and land someplace else on the planet.

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This argument falls apart when traveling opposite. Keep in mind you yourself honored the Coriolis Effect as fact (although proven many times to be false.) View below old post. Again, at this point, instead of conceding, desperate heliocentrists triple-down claiming the reason cannonballs fall straight back is because the magical properties of gravity allow Earth to somehow drag the entire lower-atmosphere in perfect synchronization with its axial spin rendering even such break-neck speeds completely unnoticeable to the observer and unmeasurable by experimentation! This highly implausible, though clever and convenient explanation only holds for vertically-fired cannons, however. If cannons are instead fired and measured in all cardinal directions, even the heliocentrists’ atmospheric-velcro trump-card becomes unplayable. North/South-firing cannonballs establish a control, then the East-firing cannonballs should fall significantly farther than all others and West-firing cannonballs should fall significantly closer due to the supposed 19 mile per second Eastward rotation of the Earth. In actual fact, however, regardless of which direction cannons are fired, North, South, East, or West, the distance covered is always the same. Now keep in mind you mentioned the Coriolis Effect which is at times applied to the trajectory of a bullet. You can’t consider one and not the other. That’s one of the reasons why a physicist did not want to hold onto the Coriolis Effect. If you say earth’s rotation can effect a bullet but not a airplane you invite integrity problems. I will try and find that video. The physicist explains it better.

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Your first two sentences were fundamentally wrong. I couldn’t force myself to read the rest.

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The red bull free fall jump proves the Coriolus effect and earth spinning is a bunch of bullshit

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If there is a fly in your car when you are driving at 100mph, how does it fly from the rear of the vehicle to the front? Is the fly flying at over 100 mph?

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Relative to the outside of the car. Yeah it’s going 100 mph, as are you the passenger. lol

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the magical properties of gravity allow Earth to somehow drag the entire lower-atmosphere in perfect synchronization with its axial spin rendering even such break-neck speeds completely unnoticeable to the observer and unmeasurable by experimentation!

Exactly. This is the nonsensical stuff I try to point out. And within the atmosphere, being 'dragged' as you say, are the likes of bullets, helicopters, flying insects and birds, clouds and rain. Lol.

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You are retarded. How are you even alive? Well anyway, just fucking kill yourself, please.

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So 30k in the air thr air is moving faster the. The surface of the earth? It has to be it is 30k feet off the ground it is a bigger ball so to speak... u are saying almost like magic as the air gets less dense the higher up it is some how moving at the same rotation of the earth and is carrying the airplane along as well?

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Have you ever spun a ball? The center of the ball is rotating more slowly than the outside. The way the ball achieves it, the atmosphere does.

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So u think air 30k feet up with very little oxygen or anything some how is going the same speed? No has to be going faster to stay the exact same speed as the ground like the particles 30k feet up are some how attached to the earth and going the same speed?

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"Magic" is what they believe in to make it all work, the hell with common sense.

Keep researching.

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Two words: inertia

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Inertia transfers up 30k feet and keeps it going for a 12 hour flight? It just goes and goes